How many think that Adam and Eve were real people? Why not allegorical characters? (testimony, myth)
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So you think Adam and Eve were real people. But, you have no problems in saying Jesus is not present in the Eucharist and that Jesus was speaking allegorically.
Yes. I believe Jesus. He also said he was the door, and a vine...but you don't really believe THOSE statements, do you?
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Why do you get to choose when the bible is allegoric and when it is not allegoric?
Read the context. It's not that difficult.
Of course, you've told me you don't believe you can trust the Bible, or your church...so I feel sorry for you, not knowing WHAT to believe.
What did you say to your son when he questioned the survival of Jonah after spending three days inside the big fish?
Actually, I just laughed and told him it was okay. I told him that he didn't need to believe that story in order to be baptized.
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As a young man I asked my father about magical bible stories and he always gave me logical answers. My dad never forced me to believe in magical stuff.
My dad sounds pretty much like yours in that regard. My dad definitely was not a Bible literalist by any stretch of the imagination, and I can just see him go when I told him some of the things I was taught by Sunday School teachers to believe literally. My dad instilled a lot of common sense in me, and a lot of faith as well. I think he gave me a pretty good balance.
Actually, I just laughed and told him it was okay. I told him that he didn't need to believe that story in order to be baptized.
My dad sounds pretty much like yours in that regard. My dad definitely was not a Bible literalist by any stretch of the imagination, and I can just see him go when I told him some of the things I was taught by Sunday School teachers to believe literally. My dad instilled a lot of common sense in me, and a lot of faith as well. I think he gave me a pretty good balance.
So in context you believe Adam and Eve were real. And you think Jesus is not present in the Eucharist. I think the latter is easier to believe than the former. I don't get your logic.
So in context you believe Adam and Eve were real. And you think Jesus is not present in the Eucharist.
Yes. That is correct. I believe Jesus and take him at his word. He said Adam and Eve were real, and he never said his flesh was literally in the communion wafer.
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I think the latter is easier to believe than the former. I don't get your logic.
It's called context, my friend. You need to read not just 1-2 verses that your church points to, but the whole chapter, and all of scripture.
Yes. That is correct. I believe Jesus and take him at his word. He said Adam and Eve were real, and he never said his flesh was literally in the communion wafer.
It's called context, my friend. You need to read not just 1-2 verses that your church points to, but the whole chapter, and all of scripture.
A poem that is a 1000 pages long is still a poem. The creation is an allegory. Commons sense is important.
An allegory is not in Jesus' lineage but a real man called Adam:
Luk_3:38 of Enosh, of Seth, of Adam, of God."
All mankind are connected directly to Adam:
Rom 5:12 Therefore, even as through one man [Adam] sin entered into the world, and through sin death,
and thus death passed through into all mankind, on which all sinned -"
The one sin of Adam caused death to enter into all mankind and for that reason, all mankind sin.
Rom_5:14 nevertheless death reigns from Adam unto Moses, over those also who do not sin in the
likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him Who is about to be."
1Co_15:22 For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified."
1Co_15:45 If there is a soulish body, there is a spiritual also. Thus it is written also, The first man, Adam,
"became a living soul:the last Adam a vivifying Spirit."
1Ti_2:13 (for Adam was first molded, thereafter Eve,
1Ti_2:14 and Adam was not seduced, yet the woman, being deluded, has come to be in the transgression)."
Jud_1:14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesies to these also, saying, "Lo! the Lord came
among ten thousand of His saints,
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Originally Posted by Julian658
You are using a poem to prove a poem. Circular logic.
I don't dispute the allegory of the Bible. This is the necessary ingredient to convince men that believed thousands of years ago.
God cannot be responsible for incest.
Sorry, but the genealogies of Christ was not written in poetry, neither was Romans, nor Paul's personal letters to Timothy, nor the letter from Jude.
The historic account of Adam and Eve and creation is not allegorical. Like I said, Christ's geneology is not an allegory. It's fact.
I know a president named Obama
He's been president way too longa
He lives in a big White House
His wife at times wears a pretty blouse
But I hardly see him at work.
Now then, is the poem above an allegory?
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when I told him some of the things I was taught by Sunday School teachers to believe literally. My dad instilled a lot of common sense in me, and a lot of faith as well. I think he gave me a pretty good balance.
