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Old 03-08-2014, 12:55 PM
 
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.... yesterday I was told that I was flat wrong, (from the Hebrew of course). ok, I have no problem with that. but for the last time, can any of the experts here translate into English, “EHEYEH asher EHEYEH”. what is the simple rendering?. or else, I will go with what is the standard rendering by most bible scholar. "I AM THAT I AM", OR I AM WHO I AM".

The translation directly from Hebrew is I will be who I will be.


Now if you want it the other way around I AM WHO I AM is ANEE MEE SHE-ANEE

Now if you want it the other way around I AM THAT I AM is ANEE SHE-ANEE


fyi
SHE is pronounced as in the word shed.
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Old 03-08-2014, 01:01 PM
 
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I AM, what I Will Always Be.
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Old 03-08-2014, 01:54 PM
 
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101c and Shiloh

Not going to get into a debate about this but here is Something that you both missed and might help you understand better is that Gen.1:26-27 is speaking of the future, a prophesy of what man will become in Christ, the image and likeness of GOD.

Remember the FIRST man Adam was of the earth earthy, THIS IS NOT THE IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD. Thus Gen1:26-27 CANNOT be speaking of ADAM.

Now if you guys can accept this you can see that the SONS OF GOD who shout for joy when the world was made is speaking of US, the many membered body of Christ.

A new heaven and earth is what they are shouting for joy about.
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Old 03-08-2014, 03:42 PM
 
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101c and Shiloh

Not going to get into a debate about this but here is Something that you both missed and might help you understand better is that Gen.1:26-27 is speaking of the future, a prophesy of what man will become in Christ, the image and likeness of GOD.

Remember the FIRST man Adam was of the earth earthy, THIS IS NOT THE IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD. Thus Gen1:26-27 CANNOT be speaking of ADAM.

Now if you guys can accept this you can see that the SONS OF GOD who shout for joy when the world was made is speaking of US, the many membered body of Christ.

A new heaven and earth is what they are shouting for joy about.

greeting,
first off, this is not a debate. if someone give an opinion, that's ok. second, I believe I stated this already. when God said let us, and our, it is the one to come, (God was speaking in future tense, the figure to come), see romans 4:17. and three I believe I said that the sons of God was us humans. so there is no debate there. now fourth, as the New heavens and earth. are you speaking of the old creaton now or the New Creation in Christ Jesus?.

Be blessed.
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Old 03-08-2014, 03:58 PM
 
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greeting,
first off, this is not a debate. if someone give an opinion, that's ok. second, I believe I stated this already. when God said let us, and our, it is the one to come, (God was speaking in future tense, the figure to come), see romans 4:17. and three I believe I said that the sons of God was us humans. so there is no debate there. now fourth, as the New heavens and earth. are you speaking of the old creaton now or the New Creation in Christ Jesus?.

Be blessed.
Hi 101.
First your long post was very hard to follow.
Second you have stated that NO ONE was around but God alone when he said let us make man in our image and likeness.
Third you say you agree with what I said about it being a FUTURE event.
Therefore the second does not line up with the third. For if Gen.1:26-27 is a future event then the MANY membered body of Christ is around, thus God is NOT alone. Therefore when God said let US make man in our image and likeness the US is in referance to the many membered body of Christ.
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Old 03-08-2014, 04:28 PM
 
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Hi 101.
First your long post was very hard to follow.
Second you have stated that NO ONE was around but God alone when he said let us make man in our image and likeness.
Third you say you agree with what I said about it being a FUTURE event.
Therefore the second does not line up with the third. For if Gen.1:26-27 is a future event then the MANY membered body of Christ is around, thus God is NOT alone. Therefore when God said let US make man in our image and likeness the US is in referance to the many membered body of Christ.

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NO ONE was around but God alone
this is correct, only he created everything, and made every thing. everything was in his mind. understand he's Alpha and omega of the OLD CREATION. to him all times are the same, only when he reference it. God is Past Present, and future.

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Third you say you agree with what I said about it being a FUTURE event.
I have already stated that.

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Therefore the second does not line up with the third.
incorrect, all was in the mind of God. only when he calls it into existence.

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For if Gen.1:26-27 is a future event then the MANY membered body of Christ is around
in the NEW CREATION, which is a separate form the old Creation. for the NEW Creation is to Come. for he is the END of the Old Creation.
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Old 03-08-2014, 05:20 PM
 
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Thanks for the reply,

this is correct, only he created everything, and made every thing. everything was in his mind. understand he's Alpha and omega of the OLD CREATION. to him all times are the same, only when he reference it. God is Past Present, and future.


You are incorrect that God created everything Example sin, evil tares etc., but that is another topic.


I have already stated that.


incorrect, all was in the mind of God. only when he calls it into existence.

It is not incorrect, if the many membered body is present when God said let US make man in OUR image and likeness then God was NOT ALONE.


in the NEW CREATION, which is a separate form the old Creation. for the NEW Creation is to Come. for he is the END of the Old Creation.
Gen.1:26-27 is speaking of the NEW creation
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Old 03-08-2014, 05:24 PM
 
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Gen.1:26-27 is speaking of the NEW creation

I don't believe so. only until the resurrection. for the flesh must die to be quicken, or change.
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Old 03-08-2014, 05:33 PM
 
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I don't believe so. only until the resurrection. for the flesh must die to be quicken, or change.
Yet you already agreed that Gen.1:26-27 was speaking of a FUTURE event. That future event is US in Christ. Gen.1:26-27 is a prophesy of what will be, not what has been. The first man Adam was of the earth earthy and that is NOT THE IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD. We right now bare the image of Adam but we shall bare the image of Christ. Therefore Gen.1:26-27 is NOT speaking of the old creation but the NEW creation in Christ Jesus.
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Old 03-08-2014, 05:40 PM
 
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Yet you already agreed that Gen.1:26-27 was speaking of a FUTURE event. That future event is US in Christ. Gen.1:26-27 is a prophesy of what will be, not what has been. The first man Adam was of the earth earthy and that is NOT THE IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD. We right now bare the image of Adam but we shall bare the image of Christ. Therefore Gen.1:26-27 is NOT speaking of the old creation but the NEW creation in Christ Jesus.

I guess you didn't understand me. Christ came. but we're not in him until after the resurrection. he had to finish his work first. and two, redemption is two fold, spirit, and then body, we have not receive our new bodies yet.
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