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View Poll Results: Is the Virgin Mary in heaven?
Yes 29 74.36%
No 10 25.64%
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:34 PM
 
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As far as we know, her body is in the ground. We can imagine her spirit is in heaven
The bible does not say how Mary died. It does not say how Paul and Peter were martyred. However, historians knew how Peter and Paul died. During those days the bones of dead martyrs were venerated. No word on the bones of Mary.
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:46 PM
 
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No word on the bones of Mary.
Catholics believe in the Assumption of Mary. Meaning she was taken bodily up to Heaven at the end of her life here on Earth. To Catholics, there can be no bones.

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Old 05-08-2014, 05:40 AM
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I do not know why you call the mother of Jesus a virgin. She was married and had children. If you believe your church that she stayed a virgin, that is your business. But I believe that she died as every human and not went to Heaven in her own body, that would exclude her from the kingdom. If she changed she has not her old body and when her body went to the grave, you will not find any virgin anymore, believe it or not the virgin is dead. I do not know, if souls in Heaven are called virgins. Mary being an eternal virgin is another myth of the RCC, but her soul is with Jesus and she will come back to earth to receive her new immortal body.
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Old 05-08-2014, 05:43 AM
 
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I do not know why you call the mother of Jesus a virgin. She was married and had children. If you believe your church that she stayed a virgin, that is your business. But I believe that she died as every human and not went to Heaven in her own body, that would exclude her from the kingdom. If she changed she has not her old body and when her body went to the grave, you will not find any virgin anymore, believe it or not the virgin is dead. I do not know, if souls in Heaven are called virgins. Mary being an eternal virgin is another myth of the RCC, but her soul is with Jesus and she will come back to earth to receive her new immortal body.
Fair post. Is the Noah living to be 930 years of age a myth too?
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Old 05-08-2014, 06:33 AM
 
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Or is she six feet under!
Six feet under...
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Old 05-08-2014, 06:36 AM
 
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So are you telling me there is no one in heaven. Everybody is in the ground and dead?

Can you quote the verse where it says everybody is dead? That goes along with a non-religious view. Are you talking off the record?

Show me where in the bible it says there is no one in heaven.
Show me where it says they are...
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:14 AM
 
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Show me where it says they are...
he can't because it is not in there. It comes from his church and that is all. Even Jesus said that all were dead in the ground.
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:28 AM
 
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I do not know why you call the mother of Jesus a virgin. She was married and had children.
There is no statement in Scripture that Mary had other children, so I don't know where you are inventing that from. The best you can find is the statement that Jesus himself had other relatives.
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:47 AM
 
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There is no statement in Scripture that Mary had other children, so I don't know where you are inventing that from. The best you can find is the statement that Jesus himself had other relatives.
Jesus had a brother, James, or didn't you know that?! If He had a brother then where do you think His brother came from? My oh my people, just think! Mary had other children and that is known for a fact.

Jesus’ brothers are mentioned in several Bible verses. Matthew 12:46, Luke 8:19, and Mark 3:31 say that Jesus’ mother and brothers came to see Him. The Bible tells us that Jesus had four brothers: James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas (Matthew 13:55). The Bible also tells us that Jesus had sisters, but they are not named or numbered (Matthew 13:56). In John 7:1-10, His brothers go on to the festival while Jesus stays behind. In Acts 1:14, His brothers and mother are described as praying with the disciples. Galatians 1:19 mentions that James was Jesus’ brother. The most natural conclusion of these passages is to interpret that Jesus had actual blood half-siblings.

There is no biblical reason to believe that these siblings are anything other than the actual children of Joseph and Mary. Those who oppose the idea that Jesus had half-brothers and half-sisters do so, not from a reading of Scripture, but from a preconceived concept of the perpetual virginity of Mary, which is itself clearly unbiblical: “But he (Joseph) had no union with her (Mary) until she gave birth to a son. And he gave Him the name Jesus” (Matthew 1:25). Jesus had half-siblings, half-brothers and half-sisters, who were the children of Joseph and Mary. That is the clear and unambiguous teaching of God’s Word.
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