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Old 06-30-2014, 01:02 PM
 
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Galatians 3:23-25(NKJV)
23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.


The scriptures says the purpose of the law was to bring us to Christ or show our need for a savior, but when you read through out the OT, it seems like people were punished for not keeping the law all the time.

In Deut 28 when Moses lists the blessings of keeping the law and the curses for breaking it, it makes you wonder why punish people for something no one has been able to keep perfectly except Jesus.
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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Galatians 3:23-25(NKJV)
23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.


The scriptures says the purpose of the law was to bring us to Christ or show our need for a savior, but when you read through out the OT, it seems like people were punished for not keeping the law all the time.

In Deut 28 when Moses lists the blessings of keeping the law and the curses for breaking it, it makes you wonder why punish people for something no one has been able to keep perfectly except Jesus.
Galatians 3:23-25(NKJV)
23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
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Old 06-30-2014, 02:04 PM
 
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Galatians 3:23-25(NKJV)
23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.


The scriptures says the purpose of the law was to bring us to Christ or show our need for a savior, but when you read through out the OT, it seems like people were punished for not keeping the law all the time.

In Deut 28 when Moses lists the blessings of keeping the law and the curses for breaking it, it makes you wonder why punish people for something no one has been able to keep perfectly except Jesus.
Go back to Genesis. They sinned without the law and life was horrible. God ended up wiping them out.

From a practical standpoint - the law was needed to keep some sort of order.

Also, following God's law was an indicator that they actually believed in God, and the people valued Him - which is ultimately what He wants.

Also, why should I punish my kids even though I know they will misbehave? To grow them up... to make them mature... to teach them my values...
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Old 06-30-2014, 02:46 PM
 
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Galatians 3:23-25(NKJV)
23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.


The scriptures says the purpose of the law was to bring us to Christ or show our need for a savior, but when you read through out the OT, it seems like people were punished for not keeping the law all the time.

In Deut 28 when Moses lists the blessings of keeping the law and the curses for breaking it, it makes you wonder why punish people for something no one has been able to keep perfectly except Jesus.
who says it was impossible to keep?
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Old 06-30-2014, 02:59 PM
 
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God's Laws are not impossible to keep for his people. But for the wicked in the earth, God's Laws are impossible to keep because they literally hate God's Laws.
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Old 06-30-2014, 03:32 PM
 
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The law was not given to either save or condemn mankind, but, so that every person can see the outward evidence of their own sin in their lives (No person, but, Jesus Christ, has ever been able to "perfectly keep the whole law.") This is how the 'law is a tutor that leads people to faith in Christ Jesus'.

The sin of every person is revealed by the law and every person thus, determines whether they will remain condemned by their own sin; OR if they will recognize the evidence of their own sin and turn to Christ in faith and thus, receive Salvation and forgiveness by God's grace. For those who are saved by grace through faith in Christ Jesus, there is no more law or judgment/condemnation under the law.

It is quite simple and not as complicated as some try to make it. God has paved the way for every person to receive Salvation by grace through faith in Christ Jesus. But, every person makes their own choice during this lifetime as to whether they are ultimately judged by 'Justice' or 'Grace.' --Give me Grace! - I can't stand Justice!
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Old 06-30-2014, 04:04 PM
 
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From a rational point of view it is possible to keep the Law--if you're born a bed-bound quadriplegic you have no opportunity to break it.

The rich man who came to Jesus said he had kept the Law from his youth and Jesus did not call him on it as He did the Samaritan woman who lied about not having five husbands. If Jesus didn't call him on it he was telling the truth. last I checked there was nothing in the Law that said a man had to sell all his possessions and give the money to the poor. It was obviously a test to point out the man his deficiencies in spiritual matters other than the Law.

Paul's take on the Law being there not to be observed, but just to point out weak we are in not being able to keep it thus needing Jesus to make amends for us for not keeping it, is his own interpretation and at odds with Jesus' teaching that the Law should and will stay intact till the end of time and that we are to keep it perfectly.

But then the argument can be made that Jesus was teaching only to the Jews, not the Gentiles, and that this was pre-resurrection when everything changed. But if we take this position, then that pretty much invalidates everything Jesus said as applying to Gentiles as well as Jews. Consequently we shouldn't follow anything Jesus said because it wasn't said for our sakes.
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:05 PM
 
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who says it was impossible to keep?
to keep perfectly, yes....but to atleast attempt to try to keep them, no.
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:03 AM
 
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The scriptures says the purpose of the law was to bring us to Christ or show our need for a savior, but when you read through out the OT, it seems like people were punished for not keeping the law all the time.

In Deut 28 when Moses lists the blessings of keeping the law and the curses for breaking it, it makes you wonder why punish people for something no one has been able to keep perfectly except Jesus.
So the question is whether it is the failure to keep the Law perfectly that was being punished, or the failure to commit to the principles that found form in the Law.
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Old 07-01-2014, 09:08 AM
 
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Would God give his people a Law that is impossible to keep, then punish them for not keeping it?

The first thing I thought of was homosexuals. I really do feel badly for them.
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