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View Poll Results: Do you have to come up boldly to the throne of grace every year so that a decision is made on your h
Yes, Jesus went to officiate the priesthood in heaven on our behalf for these days 5 41.67%
No, that's all done away with 6 50.00%
Maybe 2 16.67%
I just wanted to go see the reapers, my head, my head, my head. 3 25.00%
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I would recommend Chabad to everyone who watches a calendar, I tried to build up a calendar for the coming days. On September 4th the month of Elul will begin and this month is when they say,'' The King is in the field, what will you do when the king comes to you in the field? Will you stop working and stare or will you keep on working as he is walking by you?''


Elul begins a month preparing for Rosh Hashanah, the day that no man knows, only the father, it is called,'' Yom Hakeseh,'' for this reason, it is the hidden day that nobody is supposed to speak of because the day is hidden from the enemy and so it is said,'' No man knoweth the day, only the father.''


Every single year the king is amongst his people who are working in his field and when the feast of Trumpets comes on October 3rd, your name is going to be spoken and it will be decided whether or not that you shall be handed over to Satan to be put in prison for ten days. For ten days people are seriously repenting because they know God is judging the whole world and people will find out where they stand on Rosh Hashanah.


Rosh Hashanah is called the Feast of Trumpets, Teshuvah, Birthday of the world, head of the year, Yom Hadin, the day of judgment, HaMelech, the coronation of the king, the opening of the gates, the time of Jacob's trouble, the day of rememberence, the wedding ceremony called Kiddushin/ Nesu'in. It is known as the last TRUMP, the resurrection of the dead, the awakening blast, birthpangs of the Messiah, Chevlai shel Mashiach




When we see the saints being counted and measured to receive the seal of protection between their eyes and upon their right hand, this is happening on Rosh Hashanah against Yom Kippur where we are to come up boldly to the throne of grace EVERY YEAR because we know when to come up, and we know that we have received the memorial between our eyes that protects us against any judgment.


This year on Rosh Hashanah is promised to be a Rosh Hashanah that nobody will forget, and it is not as if we are asked to do some great thing, but just that we know that God is coming closer to us than at any other time of the year, we should at least give God a heads up so that we recognize his appointed days.


So maybe on Monday, October 3rd, while you are doing the dishes, put a little memo up on the window and at least give a little prayer saying,'' This year in Jerusalem Lord.'' I don't think God asks much from any of us, but that we should at least pause for a few seconds and realize that God is closer to us than any other time of the year, he is really there.


Jesus went to officiate a priesthood so he could actually be there in our behalf and if he has went through so many pains just to officiate a priesthood on given days in our behalf, we should at least give him a heads up on Rosh Hashanah, and we should recognize what is actually happening, shouldn't we?


Jesus DID go to be our priest in order to stand in our behalf on exact days..


Hebrews 8


The High Priest of a New Covenant
1Now the main point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, 2and who serves in the sanctuary, the true tabernacle set up by the Lord, not by a mere human being.
3Every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices, and so it was necessary for this one also to have something to offer. 4If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are already priests who offer the gifts prescribed by the law. 5They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: “See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.”

Chabad
Shabbat, September 3, 2016 - Jewish Calendar


Shabbat, September 3, 2016

30 Av, 5776

2nd Tablets Hewn (1313 BCE)
On the last day of Av of the year 2448 from creation (1313 BCE), Moses carved, by G-d's command, two stone tablets -- each a cube measuring 6x6x6 tefachim (a tefach, "handbreadth", is approximately 3.2 inches) -- to replace the two divinely-made tablets, on which G-d had inscribed the Ten Commandments, which Moses had smashed 42 days earlier upon witnessing Israel's worship of the Golden Calf.

Jewish History
Sunday, September 4, 2016
1 Elul, 5776
Moses ascends Sinai for 3rd 40 days (1313 BCE)
On the early morning of the 1st of Elul of the year 2448 from creation (1313 BCE) Moses ascended Mount Sinai, taking with him the stone tablets he had hewn by divine command (see "Today in Jewish History" for yesterday, Av 30), for G-d to re-inscribe the Ten Commandments. On the mountain, G-d allowed Moses to "see My back, but not My face" (which Maimonides interprets as a perception of G-d's reality but not His essence) -- the closest any human being ever came to knowing G-d -- and taught him the secret of His "Thirteen Attributes of Mercy" (Exodus 33:18-34:8).
Moses remained on the mountain for 40 days, until the 10th of Tishrei (Yom Kippur), during which time He obtained G-d's whole-hearted forgiveness and reconciliation with the people of Israel following their betrayal of the covenant between them with their worship of the Golden Calf. This was the third of Moses' three 40-day periods on Mount Sinai in connection with the Giving of the Torah. Ever since, the month of Elul serves as the "month of Divine mercy and forgiveness."

Tuesday, September 13, 2016
10 Elul, 5776

Noah Dispatches Raven (2105 BCE)
On the 10th of Elul of the year 1656 from creation (2105 BCE), as the Great Flood neared its end, Noah opened the window of the Ark and dispatched a raven to determine if the flood waters had begun to recede (Genesis 8:1; Rashi). For a discussion of the deeper significance of this event, see The Window

Tuesday, September 20, 2016
17 Elul, 5776
Noah Dispatches Dove (2105 BCE)
Following the failed attempt to dispatch a raven from the ark (see "Today in Jewish History" for Elul 10), Noah sent a dove from the window of the ark to see if the great Flood that covered the earth had abated. "But the dove found no resting place for the sole of its foot" and returned to the ark; Noah waited seven days before making another attempt.


Monday, September 26, 2016
23 Elul, 5776
Dove brings Olive Leaf (2105 BCE)
On the 301st day of the great Flood, Noah sent a dove for the 2nd time from the ark (see "Today in Jewish History" for Elul 17). This time, the dove stayed away all day; "the dove came in to him in the evening, and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf plucked off; and Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth" (Genesis 8:11).

9/11 Terrorist Attacks (2001)
On a sunny fall morning, Islamic terrorists hijacked four commercial passenger airplanes. Two were crashed into the Twin Towers in lower Manhattan. A third was rammed into the Pentagon, the Washington, D.C. headquarters of the United States Department of Defense. The last plane was intended for Washington as well, but crashed into a field near Shanksville, Pennsylvania, after its passengers tried to overcome the hijackers. In total, almost 3,000 people died in the attacks, including the 227 civilians and 19 hijackers aboard the four planes. It also was the deadliest incident for firefighters in the history of the United States.
Known as 9/11, the events of the day deeply affected the American approach to security and diplomacy, instigating the global War on Terror.

Wednesday, September 28, 2016
25 Elul, 5776
Creation (3761 BCE)
The 1st day of creation, on which G-d created existence, time, matter, darkness and light, was the 25th of Elul. (Rosh Hashanah, on which we mark "the beginning of Your works", is actually the 6th day of creation, on which the world attained the potential for the realization of its purpose, with the creation of the first man and woman, Adam and Eve. Rosh Hashanah is therefore the day from which the Jewish calendar begins to count the years of history; the 1st day of creation thus occurred on the 25th of Elul of what is termed -1 from creation.
Jerusalem Walls Rebuilt (335 BCE)


Monday, October 3, 2016
1 Tishrei, 5777 ~The beginning of the end, and the beginning
Ten Days of Repentance
The 10-day period beginning on Rosh Hashanah and ending on Yom Kippur is known as the "Ten Days of Repentance"; this is the period, say the sages, of which the prophet speaks when he proclaims (Isaiah 55:6) "Seek G-d when He is to be found; call on Him when He is near." Psalm 130, Avinu Malkeinu and other special inserts and additions are included in our daily prayers during these days.


Adam & Eve (3760 BCE)
On Tishrei 1 -- the sixth day of creation -- "G-d said: 'Let us make Man in Our image, after Our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth...'" (Genesis 1:26). "G-d formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul" (ibid., 2:7). "And G-d took the man and placed him in the Garden of Eden, to work it and to keep it" (2:15). "And G-d said: 'It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helpmeet opposite him' ... G-d caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; and He took one of his sides, and closed up the flesh in its place. And G-d built the side which He had taken from the man into a woman, and brought her to the man. And the man said: 'This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.' Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother, and cleaves to his wife; and they become one flesh" (2:18-24).



1st Sin & Repentance (3760 BCE)
On the very day he was created, man committed the first sin of history, transgressing the divine commandment not to eat from the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil." Adam and Eve were banished from the Garden, and mankind became subject to death, labor and moral confusion. But on that day the first man and woman also repented their sin, introducing the concept and opportunities of teshuvah ("return") into the human experience.



Dove's 3rd Mission (2105 BCE)
On the 1st of Tishrei, on the 307th day of the Great Flood, Noach dispatched a dove from the ark, for the third time (see "On This Date" for Elul 17 and Elul 23). When the dove did not return, Noah knew that the Flood's waters had completely drained from the earth. On that day, Noach removed the roof of the ark; but Noah and his family, and all the animals, remained in the ark for another 57 days -- until the 27th of Cheshvan -- when the suface of the earth was completely dry and G-d commanded them to leave the ark and resettle and reppopulate the earth.




Binding of Isaac; Sarah's Passing (1677 BCE)
Abraham's supreme test of faith -- his binding of Isaac in preparation to sacrifice him as per G-d's command -- occurred on the 1st of Tishrei of the year 2084 from creation (1677 BCE), and is recalled each Rosh Hashanah with the sounding of the shofar (ram's horn -- a ram was sacrificed in Isaac's stead when an angel revealed that the command to sacrifice Isaac was but a divine test); the Torah's account of the event is publicly read in the synagogue on the 2nd day of Rosh Hashanah. On the day of Isaac's binding, his mother, Sarah, passed away at age 127, and was subsequently buried in the Machpelah Cave in Hebron.



Tuesday, October 11, 2016
9 Tishrei, 5777
Erev Yom Kippur
Kaparot
In the early morning hours of the day preceding Yom Kippur, the Kaparot ("Atonement") ceremony is performed. We take a live chicken (a rooster for a male and a hen for a female) and, circling it three times above our heads, we declare: "This is my replacement, this is my exchange, this is my atonement; this fowl shall go to its death, and I shall go to a long, good and peaceful life." The fowl is then slaughtered in accordance with halachic procedure, at which time we contemplate that this is a fate we ourselves would deserve, G-d forbid, for our failings and iniquities. The value of the fowl is given to the poor, and its meat eaten in the Yom Kippur meal; some give the fowl itself to the poor. (A alternate custom is to perform the rite only with money, reciting the prescribed verses and giving the money to charity. Kaparot can also be performed in the preceding days, during the "Ten Days of Repentance").

Festive Meals
The day before Yom Kippur is a Yom Tov, a festive day; for although we stand prepared to be judged in the supernal courtroom for our deeds of the passed year, we are confident that G-d is a merciful judge, and will decree a year of life, health and prosperity for us. Two festive meals are eaten -- one at midday and the other before the fast, which begins at sunset. The Talmud states that "Whoever eats and drinks on the 9th [of Tishrei], it is regarded as if he had fasted on both the 9th and the 10th."

Rebecca Born (1677 BCE)
Birth of Rebecca (1677-1556 BCE), wife of Isaac, mother of Jacob and Esau, and one of the Four Matriarchs of Israel.

2nd Tablets (1313 BCE)
On the 10th of Tishrei of the year 2449 from creation, 82 days after the people of Israel betrayed their newly entered covenant with G-d by worshipping a Golden Calf and after Moses twice spent 40 days atop Mount Sinai pleading on their behalf, "G-d restored His goodwill with the Jewish people gladly and wholeheartedly, saying to Moses 'I have forgiven, as you ask', and gave him the Second Tablets" -- thereby establishing the day as a time for atonement, forgiveness and teshuvah for all generations.

Monday, October 17, 2016
15 Tishrei, 5777 The Feast Of Tabernacles~ Commemorating 40 years with God in the wilderness.

The Ushpizin {Christ Born/says Hannibal}
According to Kabbalistic tradition, we are visited in the sukkah by seven supernal ushpizin ("guests") -- Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Aaron, Joseph and David. On each of the seven days of the festival, another of the seven ushpizin (in the above order) leads the group

Sunday, October 23, 2016
21 Tishrei, 5777

Hoshana Rabbah (Chol Hamoed Sukkot)


The seventh day of Sukkot is called "Hoshana Rabbah" and is considered the final day of the divine "judgment" in which the fate of the new year is determined.


"Water Drawing" Celebrationshttp://www.chabad.org/calendar/view/day.asp?tdate=10/23/2016
When the Holy Temple stood in Jerusalem, one of the special Sukkot observances was to pour water on the Altar. The drawing of water for this purpose was preceded by all-night celebrations in the Temple courtyard; on the 15 steps leading to the azarah (inner courtyard) stood Levites while playing a variety of musical instruments, sages danced and juggled burning torches, and huge oil-burning lamps illuminated the entire city. The singing and dancing went on until daybreak, when a procession would make its way to the Shiloach Spring which flowed in a valley below the Temple to "draw water with joy." "One who did not see the joy of the water-drawing celebrations," declared the sages of the Talmud, "has not seen joy in his life."
While water was poured each day of the fetival, the special celebrations were held only on Chol Hamoed since many of the elements of the celebration (e.g., the playing of musical instruments) are forbidden on Yom Tov.
Today, we commemorate these joyous celebrations by holding Simchat Beit HaShoeivah ("joy of the water drawing") events in the streets, with music and dancing. The Lubavitcher Rebbe initiated the custom of holding such celebrations on Shabbat and Yom Tov as well -- without musical instruments of course. The fact that we cannot celebrate as we did in the Temple, said the Rebbe, means that we are free to celebrate the joy of Sukkot with singing and dancing every day of the festival.


Monday, October 24, 2016
22 Tishrei, 5777
This right here is the big day, '' Shemini Atzeret.''


The spirit is promised to fall on this day just as it had fallen on Pentecost.


Jesus was circumcised on this great 8th day and it is in fact a great day of circumcision. For 7 days all the nations come up to Jerusalem to celebrate the King of Sukkot, but after 7 days, those gentiles are circumcised from the congregation and sent home and only the true brethren remain an extra day, and this extra day is seen as a day out of time, it is both the beginning and the end.

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Thanks so much for posting this....so much meat, so little time.... Peace
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''Do you have to come up boldly to the throne of grace every year so that a decision is made on your h?''

No. The believer comes boldly to the throne of grace every time he prays.

The special days that Israel observed do not apply to the church-age.

Paul addresses this to the Galatians who wanted to be under law (Gal. 4:21).
Gal. 4:6 Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, "Abba! Father!" 7] Therefore you are no longer a slave, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God. 8] However at that time, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are no gods. 9] But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? 10] You observe days and months and seasons and years. 11] I fear for you, that perhaps I have labored over you in vain. 11] I fear for you, that perhaps I have labored over you in vain.


Gal. 5:1 It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery. 2] Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you.

The Judaizers were influencing the Galatians who were beginning to observe the Mosaic calendar. They were keeping special days, and months, and seasons thinking that they could obtain favor with God for doing so.

For Christians to keep the Mosaic calendar is nothing more than legalistic religion.

And you Hannibal are a modern day Judaizer, attempting to impose on Christians those things which belonged to Israel under a different dispensation.
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16 "Therefore no one is to 1aact as your judge in regard to bfood or bdrink or in respect to a cfestival or a dnew moon or a eSabbath 2day—
17 things which are aa mere shadow of what is to come; but the 1substance 2belongs to Christ."

New American Standard Bible: 1995 update. (1995). (Col 2:16–17). LaHabra, CA: The Lockman Foundation.
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''Do you have to come up boldly to the throne of grace every year so that a decision is made on your h?''

No. The believer comes boldly to the throne of grace every time he prays.

The special days that Israel observed do not apply to the church-age.

Paul addresses this to the Galatians who wanted to be under law (Gal. 4:21).
Gal. 4:6 Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, "Abba! Father!" 7] Therefore you are no longer a slave, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God. 8] However at that time, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are no gods. 9] But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? 10] You observe days and months and seasons and years. 11] I fear for you, that perhaps I have labored over you in vain. 11] I fear for you, that perhaps I have labored over you in vain.


Gal. 5:1 It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery. 2] Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you.
The Judaizers were influencing the Galatians who were beginning to observe the Mosaic calendar. They were keeping special days, and months, and seasons thinking that they could obtain favor with God for doing so.

For Christians to keep the Mosaic calendar is nothing more than legalistic religion.

And you Hannibal are a modern day Judaizer, attempting to impose on Christians those things which belonged to Israel under a different dispensation.


You don't have any idea what was happening because you obviously have no idea just how many Sabbaths and feasts, and fasts that the Jew has do you? Some Jews were saying that you had to be circumcised to be saved but that didn't stop gentiles from circumcising their sons. The difference being, Those Jews were teaching adherence to the law for salvation and this is what is always confusing to gentiles who don't really know the law or all the Sabbaths and feasts that Jews observe. Paul himself told us plainly to keep the Passover in truth and in spirit and if the Passover, he also spoke of the Penetcost and the feast of Tabernacles as they are 3 appointed main feasts and Gentiles converted to these feasts, do you really suppose that Gentiles were taught to keep all their pagan feasts Mike?


If I am a Judaizer in trying to get people to at least know the feasts of Christ, then you are a pagan evangelist who would talk anybody into keeping pagan feasts instead of observing the 3 main Holy days and the Sabbath of Christ.


But I am not sitting here telling people they have to get on a plane to get to Jerusalem to keep all the laws of all the feasts, I tell people to acknowledge the day and to keep the days of Jesus in truth and in spirit just as Paul had taught, but if it is your idea that nobody should look into the future of the feasts, then you are just instructing people to not know their own lives and the promises they wait upon in these feasts because as Paul says,'' THESE ARE SHADOWS OF THINGS TO COME.''




ROSH HASHANAH IS A SHADOW OF THE MARRIAGE CEREMONY TO COME AND YOU WOULD HAVE PEOPLE IGNORANT OF THIS FACT.


But what you take and twist from a person who kept the laws of Moses till the day he died only proves Paul to be a liar doesn't it?




Brother, do you see how many people are telling lies and rumors that Paul was teaching people not to keep the laws of Moses? What should be done other than that Paul should make sacrifices in order to prove those liars wrong?


Is Paul a two faced liar Mike?


Paul's Arrival at Jerusalem
17And when we were come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly. 18And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. 19And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry. 20And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law: 21And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs. 22What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come. 23Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them; 24Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.
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The word is full of adherence scriptures once properly understood, as the NT is the OT revealed. No time now to clarify...more later. Peace
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Christ made that decision ONCE and I have no need to repeat the event, nor do I seek to crucify Christ on an annual basis--Jesus said IT IS FINISHED...
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''Do you have to come up boldly to the throne of grace every year so that a decision is made on your h?''

No. The believer comes boldly to the throne of grace every time he prays.

The special days that Israel observed do not apply to the church-age.

Paul addresses this to the Galatians who wanted to be under law (Gal. 4:21).
Gal. 4:6 Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, "Abba! Father!" 7] Therefore you are no longer a slave, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God. 8] However at that time, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are no gods. 9] But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? 10] You observe days and months and seasons and years. 11] I fear for you, that perhaps I have labored over you in vain. 11] I fear for you, that perhaps I have labored over you in vain.


Gal. 5:1 It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery. 2] Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you.

The Judaizers were influencing the Galatians who were beginning to observe the Mosaic calendar. They were keeping special days, and months, and seasons thinking that they could obtain favor with God for doing so.

For Christians to keep the Mosaic calendar is nothing more than legalistic religion.

And you Hannibal are a modern day Judaizer, attempting to impose on Christians those things which belonged to Israel under a different dispensation.
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You don't have any idea what was happening because you obviously have no idea just how many Sabbaths and feasts, and fasts that the Jew has do you? Some Jews were saying that you had to be circumcised to be saved but that didn't stop gentiles from circumcising their sons. The difference being, Those Jews were teaching adherence to the law for salvation and this is what is always confusing to gentiles who don't really know the law or all the Sabbaths and feasts that Jews observe. Paul himself told us plainly to keep the Passover in truth and in spirit and if the Passover, he also spoke of the Penetcost and the feast of Tabernacles as they are 3 appointed main feasts and Gentiles converted to these feasts, do you really suppose that Gentiles were taught to keep all their pagan feasts Mike?


If I am a Judaizer in trying to get people to at least know the feasts of Christ, then you are a pagan evangelist who would talk anybody into keeping pagan feasts instead of observing the 3 main Holy days and the Sabbath of Christ.


But I am not sitting here telling people they have to get on a plane to get to Jerusalem to keep all the laws of all the feasts, I tell people to acknowledge the day and to keep the days of Jesus in truth and in spirit just as Paul had taught, but if it is your idea that nobody should look into the future of the feasts, then you are just instructing people to not know their own lives and the promises they wait upon in these feasts because as Paul says,'' THESE ARE SHADOWS OF THINGS TO COME.''




ROSH HASHANAH IS A SHADOW OF THE MARRIAGE CEREMONY TO COME AND YOU WOULD HAVE PEOPLE IGNORANT OF THIS FACT.


But what you take and twist from a person who kept the laws of Moses till the day he died only proves Paul to be a liar doesn't it?




Brother, do you see how many people are telling lies and rumors that Paul was teaching people not to keep the laws of Moses? What should be done other than that Paul should make sacrifices in order to prove those liars wrong?


Is Paul a two faced liar Mike?


Paul's Arrival at Jerusalem
17And when we were come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly. 18And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. 19And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry. 20And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law: 21And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs. 22What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come. 23Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them; 24Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.
How exactly did I twist what Paul wrote when I quoted exactly what he wrote to the Galatians who wanted to place themselves under the Mosaic Law? The Church simply is not required to keep the Jewish Calendar.

Many of the Jewish Christians did keep the Sabbath and other days out of tradition. But it wasn't necessary to do so. Paul had a somewhat flexible attitude regarding this and said,
Romans 14:5 One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. 6] He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.

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What good is the book of Galatians when it was written by a Jew who refused to stop keeping the laws of Moses? People take Galatians and read what they want to read and if they are correct about what they understand in Galatians, then Galatians is just a book written by a coward, a two faced coward at that. It is written by a man who was accused of teaching Jews not to keep the law and had this man Paul been found guilty, then by the law he should have been killed as any sinner who comes up speaking against the word of God seeking to turn the children of God away from his commandments that HE DEMANDS his people to keep. Maybe the gentile can say,'' O I don't have to keep every single law,'' but it is demanded that the Jew keep it and so we have gentiles who would seek to turn the Jews away from the father, away from everything that makes them a Jew, they would turn that Jew and have him begin to keep Babylonian Pagan days about a Babylonian son of God.




Paul was always under the authority of the priest in Judaism and he proved them to be his authority time and time again and we see Paul being brought up on false charges time and time again as it was with Stephen.


Liars were paid to tell the greatest lie against one of the greatest disciples, this despicable lie was that Stephen was going around teaching Jews not to keep the laws of Moses and had Stephen been doing these things, then he simply deserved to be stoned to death and he got what he deserved.


But we are told that liars were paid to tell these lies, so was Stephen actually teaching Jews not to keep the laws of Moses?


God forbid, cause I would have no more use for Stephen.


Was Paul really teaching Jews not to keep the laws of Moses as the liars were saying?


God forbid Paul do such a thing and if he did, he deserved a sinner's death for trying to turn the people of God away from the commandments they are demanded to keep FOREVER.




So what is it?




Is Paul a two faced liar who went out of his way to sacrifice under the authority of the priests in Judaism as a charade just to save his life because he was such a coward?


If so, I have no use for the words of Paul and if Paul contradict Jesus in these things, I have no use for Paul, I choose what Jesus says over what Paul says and Jesus says that anyone who keeps the laws of Moses and teaches others to keep the laws of Moses will be the greatest in the kingdom of heaven and whoever doesn't keep the laws of Moses and teaches others not to keep it will be the least in the kingdom of heaven.


I gotta tell ya, I may not keep the laws of Moses, but you wouldn't catch me teaching other people not to keep the laws of Moses on your best day.


I am one of those people who is not seeking and striving to be the least in the kingdom of heaven by the mouth of Jesus himself.


Paul is either a two faced lying coward or a lot of people have greatly misunderstood what Paul said, and if it turns out that Paul is a two faced liar, and people think he taught against the laws of Moses, Why would I care if somebody quoted Galatians?
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Somebody says that Jesus was their Passover lamb~~~Legalistic, that's something Jewish, can't teach about Jesus in Jewish days, it is taboo to learn about Jesus and his 7 feast days and his 8th Holy day.


Somebody says they got the Holy spirit?


That is legalistic, that is the promises on a freaking Jewish holy day which we do not keep and we don't want the promise.


Somebody teaching that Christ died for the world as a Yom Kippur sacrifice and even as a Sukkot bull? That's ridiculous and legalistic you Judaizer, I don't want to hear about Jesus and these evil Jewish Holy days.


Somebody wants to talk about the marriage of Christ?


That happens on a Jewish Holy day and we have no part in Jewish Holy days as if we are to look forward to being married to a Jew on a Jewish Holy day.


Somebody wants to talk about the consummation and the honeymoon of Christ?


That's legalistic you Judaizer, those are things Jews wait upon on Jewish Holy days, we don't want to hear of Jewish Holy days and stop saying Christ was ever a part of Jewish Holy days you Judaizer.


Somebody wants to talk about the feast of Tabernacles that Jesus was born on and how the last day of the feast of Tabernacles brings a double portion of the Holy spirit down on the heads of those who keep Shemini Atzeret?




O NO, That is just Jewish Holy days you Judaizer, and we aren't suppose to look into those Jewish Holy days because they are ended and done away with even if Paul says they are things to come.




LOL, I have been called a legalistic Judaizer by the best and I am never at no time Judaizing. In order to be legalistic and to be a Judaizer, a Judaizer is telling you things that he thinks YOU MUST do in order to have salvation, and I don't EVER do that.


There is a big huge difference in learning the beauty of the law to share it with other people and a man who comes saying,'' You must be circumcised in order to be saved.''


WHO DOES THAT?




Is there somebody here telling anyone that they must keep a feast day of a Sabbath to be saved?


NO.




As far as it goes with learning who Christ actually is so that he doesn't look at you and say,'' I never knew you,'' you actually have to make an effort to know Jesus, not for salvation but so things will go well for you.


But how in the world would it be actually possible to learn who and what Jesus was if everything you read is taboo?


How does somebody really learn who Jesus is in the feast of Tabernacles if to learn of the feast is Taboo?


Sure, salvation is broad, very broad and the court chuck full of saved gentiles but know that there are things greater than salvation alone and to actually know Jesus would be a good place to start but if everything is Taboo, then how is anyone going to learn anything about Jesus?


Unfortunately, trying to talk of Jesus in his feast days and promises of those feast days gets me called a legalistic Judaizer more times than I can remember, lol. It reminds me of a Jew who thinks everyone is an anti-semite. I open my mouth and hear,'' O, he's a Judaizer,'' I say a prayer and they be like,'' O, We know he is a Judaizer.''


So many, so willing to call people a legalistic Judaizer but I am never Judaizing, I am never telling people they have to do something to be saved, I tell people that if you realy want to know Christ, look at the law and the feast days and consider the design of the Temple and the comings and goings of the temple, what can it hurt?


''O NO, we aren't bound in chains by the law, we don't want to study any of the law, we have a new law.''


It's like people are actually afraid to find Jesus in his own set appointed days.


But if somebody shuns the appointed days of Christ, then let them be silent about a Messiah dying as a Passover lamb and don't let them think that they have a gift from a Pentecost that they themselves shun, especially since they have no gifts or evidence of said spirit but the spirit is given on a Jewish Holy day, and the promised spirit to be given is on a Holy Jewish day.


If somebody shuns the Jewish Holy days, then they should not be making a claim that they are a bride of Christ who will get married to Christ on Rosh Hashanah and don't let them speak about being born again while they shun the feast of Tabernacles, and who shuns the feast of Tabernacles, who would shun the day of their own birth?


God forbid somebody hates the Jewish feast days and even wants to talk about Matthew 24, or any of the parables of Jesus and to even quote something from the book of Revelation, you ARE IN FACT speaking about Jewish tradition being done on the high fall holy days of God.




Best thing for a person like that is to just close the bible and walk away from it and go out and do good works, love your neighbor and put his needs above your own needs because if you shun the 7 feast days of Christ, you are shunning everything the New Testament is about and everything Revelation is about and so why begin?


The father put down 7 feast days for his sons to walk in and each one is an appointed visitation day where promises and gifts are received from the father to his sons. All Jesus did was to come walking in all these appointed days that are not made for God but for man to walk in. The Sabbath is for man, and the feasts are appointed visitation days when God will visit man, these things were made for man so man could know what is happening and how to live. Passover isn't a day, it is a lifestyle just as Pentecost is a lifestyle, just as Sukkot is a lifestyle and it is given to every man to walk in and Jesus was just an example.


If we can't sit here and speak about the feast days and appointed Holy days Christ came walking in, then what is the point?


The point IS the harvest, It is the sacrifices, it IS the promises


If we can't talk about Christ in all the missions he came to fulfill, then there is nothing to discuss because we speak of a lamb, a goat, a bull, rams and heifers on appointed days for specific reasons like the fact that Jesus came to be YOUR Passover lamb, and so will you now shun the Lord's Passover and instead of looking for sin in your life, you look for treasure? Is that keeping the Lord's Passover in truth and in spirit?

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