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Old 07-10-2014, 12:09 PM
 
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I don't.

Seeing as ALL of the Founding Fathers were Freemasons that dabbled in witchcraft and all. I would venture to say this country was founded on Masonic prinicples more than Christian ones.

From Washington all the way up to Obama. Freemasons.
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:10 PM
 
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Darn those rascals!!
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:15 PM
 
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I don't.

Seeing as ALL of the Founding Fathers were Freemasons that dabbled in witchcraft and all. I would venture to say this country was founded on Masonic prinicples more than Christian ones.

From Washington all the way up to Obama. Freemasons.
Would you please link to the support for your claim that... "ALL of the Founding Fathers... dabbled in witchcraft"? I find that hard to believe and would like some proof. (They weren't ALL Freemasons either but let's focus on the more extraordinary claim.)
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:23 PM
 
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Less than 10% of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were freemasons (9 out of 56).

About a third of the Signers of the Constitution were freemasons (13 of 39).

I'd say that the most influential Founding Fathers were John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and Ben Franklin. Only Franklin was a mason. Jefferson had some issues with religion - but until our freedom he was legally required to attend church (British citizens in Virginia were required by law to attend church regularly). And John Adams was most definitely a Christian with puritan roots.

So, I disagree with the OP. There were a number of Christian influences in the founding of our independent nation.
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:33 PM
 
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I dunnno. Look at the dollar bill. It has the pyramid and Osiris's eye on the back. Whatever it was founded upon, it is the greatest form of government in the world - a Republic. In their wisdom the founding fathers did their best to build in safeguard against just the tyranny of just such despots as we have currently elected to high office. We have no one to blame but ourselves.
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:34 PM
 
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Although, the witchcraft spin is always kinda intriguing. LOL
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Old 07-10-2014, 01:02 PM
 
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That's a really strong claim that the OP is making. I think proof is definitely needed for this discussion to bring any validity to the point being made about what the Founders believed in.
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Old 07-10-2014, 01:14 PM
 
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Default Do you think America was founded on Christian principles?

Not really . . . but it was definitely founded on belief in God as the Declaration of Independence reveals. The politics involved in getting the Constitution accepted prevented (and rightly so) any theocratic influence. The concept of separation of church and state is a good one . . . but its current transformation into a separation of God and state is NOT! We need not bow to any version of God or theist laws in our secular society . . . but to pretend that requires that any and all acknowledgements that God exists must be eradicated from the public sphere is extreme . . . as is most activist crapola. The fact that the minority of atheists have gained traction and exploited the "establishment clause" to excess is a travesty of extremism completely without merit. Establishing a religion is considerably more than merely acknowledging the existence of God.
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Old 07-10-2014, 01:16 PM
 
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I don't.

Seeing as ALL of the Founding Fathers were Freemasons that dabbled in witchcraft and all. I would venture to say this country was founded on Masonic prinicples more than Christian ones.

From Washington all the way up to Obama. Freemasons.
Don't know about Freemasonry, but the Nation was not.

It was founded in revolution with Christians killing Christians, so not founded on Christian Principles at all.
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Old 07-10-2014, 01:34 PM
 
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I don't.

Seeing as ALL of the Founding Fathers were Freemasons that dabbled in witchcraft and all. I would venture to say this country was founded on Masonic prinicples more than Christian ones.

From Washington all the way up to Obama. Freemasons.
What is your source for such a statement?
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