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Everything that's done in the world has a Masonic twist because they currently run everything.
There are "signs" of them everywhere. just look around.
Masons certainly do not run everything. They aren't even particularly influential in the government in modern times. The last President that was a member was Gerald Ford, and before that, was Harry Truman.
You came in here and started a thread with a lie, and , when challenged with the truth, you simply replied with another lie. You have not even posted a link to one of those laughable anti-masonic sites.
Of course there are many Masonic "signs" in the world. Masons often show their civic pride by performing a dedication ceremony to lay the cornerstone for a new public building. As a result, the cornerstone often has a commemoration date and a masonic symbol. Their symbol is on their buildings.
A little simple research would have easily shown that the symbols on the dollar bill you mentioned are not masonic symbols. The all-seeing eye appears in many places in history. The unfinished pyramid was described by the designers of the US seal as a symbol that the work of creating a more perfect union was an unfinished task.
You know, lots of organizations, including the masons, have reasons for criticism. They are not perfect, but the DO perform a lot of good, worthwhile functions in our society. It is irresponsible of you to post all this tripe without doing a LITTLE research to find out the truth.
What Lies? Are there not Masonic "signs" and imagery woven deeply into this society from past Presidents, to the Constitution and Declaration of Independence they wrote, and every monument, document, statue and sacred place in America?
*The majority of Pastors/Preachers are FreeMasons.
For all I know, YOU'RE a FreeMason. they are everywhere.
Masons did not write the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution. As I mentioned in my last post, masons often volunteer to perform the dedication ceremony for public buildings. This has happened a lot throughout history, particularly with monuments. In areas I'm familiar with, this has not been common with sacred places (churches). Masons would generally tend to avoid making the appearance of favoritism by dedicating a Methodist building if the didn't also do a Baptist one, or even an Islamic mosque.
Although a know 2 or 3 ministers that are masons, it is far from being a majority. Religion is not a proper topic for discussion at masonic lodges. Differences in religious opinions might disturb the peace and harmony that exists among the members.
There is a large list of masons here: A few famous freemasons I trust the list because a) it says it is incomplete, and b) it is compiled by masons. BTW, there are lots of lists on the Internet. Finding one is easy. Most of them will have John Hancock and Sam Adams on them.
The Masonic compiled list I read (made by US Masons) claim they were never members.
While I do see John Hancock listed on a page linked to the page you gave a link to, I cannot find Sam Adams on any list.
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Seeing as ALL of the Founding Fathers were Freemasons that dabbled in witchcraft and all. I would venture to say this country was founded on Masonic prinicples more than Christian ones.
From Washington all the way up to Obama. Freemasons.
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What Lies? Are there not Masonic "signs" and imagery woven deeply into this society from past Presidents, to the Constitution and Declaration of Independence they wrote, and every monument, document, statue and sacred place in America?
*The majority of Pastors/Preachers are FreeMasons.
For all I know, YOU'RE a FreeMason. they are everywhere.
The lies in your first post. I bolded and highlighted them for you. You claim "ALL of the Founding Fathers were Freemasons" which is a lie.
It's ALWAYS Witchcraft and most of those saying it have no idea what they are talking about.
Many of the Founding Fathers were Deists NOT "Christians".
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A Deist is one who believes in "a GOD". It could be the GOD of GOLD or the GOD of Dirt, etc... which means they could've been worshipping Cows or Peter Pan as GOD for all we know. so to say they were Diests makes them look even more wicked.
and I agree, I KNOW they weren't Christians.
Truth: We think a few of the Founders were deists. Jefferson, Franklin, Washington all come to mind. Nobody will ever know for sure what was in their minds. Personally, I think that it was a death sentence in that day and time to admit you were an atheist, so some people gave lip service to religion, and we now take that lip service and call it Deism. Deism does not specify what god a person believes in but does omit the worship of Jesus from their beliefs. (Hmmm. That also applies to Judaism and Islam, doesn't it.)
BTW, since the Constitution specifically prohibits the government from getting involved in religion, what possible difference could it make what religion each of the Founders practiced?
There is a large list of masons here: A few famous freemasons I trust the list because a) it says it is incomplete, and b) it is compiled by masons. BTW, there are lots of lists on the Internet. Finding one is easy. Most of them will have John Hancock and Sam Adams on them.
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The Masonic compiled list I read (made by US Masons) claim they were never members.
I'll stand corrected on Sam Adams. (He was busy brewing beer for the other Founders!) John Hancock was a member of St. Andrews Lodge in Boston. The interesting thing about St. Andrew Lodge is that the meeting records for December 16, 1773, indicate that no meeting was held due to a lack of a quorum.
Seeing as ALL of the Founding Fathers were Freemasons that dabbled in witchcraft and all. I would venture to say this country was founded on Masonic prinicples more than Christian ones.
From Washington all the way up to Obama. Freemasons.
They were Christians, except the 1.9% who were universalists.
It was founded on "freedom" from Religion.
Although, you are entitled to your own beliefs.
No, it wasn't. If it was, then the federal government would have the authority to tell States to grant such freedoms to their citizens, but the Fed Gov does not have such authority. Many States actually had laws which made church attendance mandatory, and the 1st amendment makes it impossible for the federal government to do anything about it.
I'll stand corrected on Sam Adams. (He was busy brewing beer for the other Founders!) John Hancock was a member of St. Andrews Lodge in Boston. The interesting thing about St. Andrew Lodge is that the meeting records for December 16, 1773, indicate that no meeting was held due to a lack of a quorum.
My point was that the OP cannot support his claims and he lies. Lies are not a Christian attribute and exposes something about him. I say it's the wrong formula. Or too much Sam Adams!!!!
My point was that the OP cannot support his claims and he lies. Lies are not a Christian attribute and exposes something about him. I say it's the wrong formula. Or too much Sam Adams!!!!
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) John Hancock was a member of St. Andrews Lodge in Boston. The interesting thing about St. Andrew Lodge is that the meeting records for December 16, 1773, indicate that no meeting was held due to a lack of a quorum. 
