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Old 08-27-2014, 02:39 PM
 
Location: The High Desert of the American Southwest
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I am a lapsed Catholic and have been an agnostic for many years now. One of the primary reasons I fired the Church back in my 20s was that, aside from it being one of the most oppressive and corrupts institutions on the planet, there were just simply too many lies from Jesus in the Gospels.
How could I pray to a liar?
How do you guys cope with the fact that he promised many many things that simply do not come true?
Oh..you can prove me wrong by having him move that mountain right now.
And...if you answer that his promises are simply figures of speech, or allegorical, then whose to say ALL of his preachings are not literal? Thus, what is the point of worshipping him?
Here are some of his lies:

Here are the quotes from Jesus that proves that he lied:

1) And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,' it will happen. "And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive." (Matthew 21:21-22 NAS)

2) Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (Matthew 7:7-8 NAB)

3) Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst. (Matthew 18:19-20 NAS)

4) Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, 'Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him. Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. (Mark 11:24-25 NAB)

5) And I tell you, ask and you will receive; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (Luke 11:9-13 NAB)

6) And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. (John 14:13-14 NAB)

 
Old 08-27-2014, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Emmaus, PA
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Nobody cares whether you are a Christian or not. Believe whatever you like.
 
Old 08-27-2014, 03:04 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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