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Old 01-21-2015, 08:17 AM
 
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Is there a possibility that there is something imperfect about the Bible? Or perhaps a part of traditional Christian doctrine does not jive completely with the Man Upstairs?
First of all, God is not a man.

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If this were true, would it even matter to Christians?

No, it would not matter to Christians.

If God were to send some clear sign that He didn't approve of exactly the message that was being sent by the Christian church, no one in the Christian church would even care about the message. They would say this: "Well, while it does seem like a clear omen or divine message, the fact that it contradicts our Biblical truth indicates that it is from Satan. Therefore the 'divine message' cannot be trusted."

What do you think of this type scenario occurring?
What is the message being sent by the Christian church God might not approve of?

If it is: "If you don't love God, God is going to burn you in flaming fire for eternity," then that is not in accord with the Bible.

If the message is: Christ died for our sins, was entombed and roused out of death the third day, then that is in accord with the Bible.
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Old 01-21-2015, 08:21 AM
 
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Correct! I am a Christian because I follow the teachings of Jesus. And I can do that because Jesus taught some valuable lessons.

And I cannot prove or disprove the existence of God. How can any one do that? are you able to prove God to me?
The underlined above is not why people are Christians.

From prior conversations, you don't believe He was raised from the dead. How can you truly follow Him when you do not believe in His resurrection?
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Old 01-21-2015, 11:20 AM
 
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The underlined above is not why people are Christians.

From prior conversations, you don't believe He was raised from the dead. How can you truly follow Him when you do not believe in His resurrection?
Abraham Lincoln, Mohandas Gandhi, Martin Luther King all stayed dead. Bad role models?
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Old 01-21-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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Those whose faith is shakiest are the most likely to use their bible as a crutch.
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Old 01-21-2015, 12:02 PM
 
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The underlined above is not why people are Christians.

From prior conversations, you don't believe He was raised from the dead. How can you truly follow Him when you do not believe in His resurrection?
I just like what Jesus said. I don't know if Jesus was resurrected or not. But, I can call myself a Christian if I like what Jesus taught. And BTW I do not care much for Saint Paul the darling of the Sola Scriptura folks.
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Old 01-21-2015, 01:49 PM
 
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I just like what Jesus said. I don't know if Jesus was resurrected or not. But, I can call myself a Christian if I like what Jesus taught. And BTW I do not care much for Saint Paul the darling of the Sola Scriptura folks.
In light of what you stated above, how can you call yourself a "Christian"?
This is what makes a person a Christian:

Romans 4:17-25 according as it is written that, A father of many nations have I appointed you - facing
which, he believes it of the God Who is vivifying the dead and calling what is not as if it were -" (18)
who, being beyond expectation, believes in expectation, for him to become the father of many nations,
according to that which has been declared, "Thus shall be your seed." (19) And, not being infirm in faith,
he considers his body, already deadened (being inherently somewhere about a hundred years) and the
deadening of the matrix of Sarah, (20) yet the promise of God was not doubted in unbelief, but he was
invigorated by faith, giving glory to God, (21) being fully assured also, that, what He has promised, He is
able to do also." (22) Wherefore, also, it is reckoned to him for righteousness." (23) Now it was not
written because of him only, that it is reckoned to him, (24) but because of us also
, to whom it is about
to be reckoned, who are believing on Him Who rouses Jesus our Lord from among the dead." (25) Who
was given up because of our offenses, and was roused because of our justifying."


Are you at least believing God that Christ died for our sins/offenses, was entombed and roused from the dead?

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Now I am making known to you, brethren, the evangel which I bring to you,
which also you accepted, in which also you stand, (2) through which also you are saved, if you are
retaining what I said in bringing the evangel to you, outside and except you believe feignedly." (3) For
I give over to you among the first what also I accepted, that Christ died for our sins according to the
scriptures, (4) and that He was entombed, and that He has been roused the third day according to the
scriptures,
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Old 01-21-2015, 01:52 PM
 
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The underlined above is not why people are Christians.

From prior conversations, you don't believe He was raised from the dead. How can you truly follow Him when you do not believe in His resurrection?
Exactly DRob4JC. It seem like many of Christianity just don't realize the most basic tenets of Christianity. It seems many of then go by feelings rather than faith. They just want to "fit in" or have a bubbly experience, listen to good Christian music during the service or eat cookies after.

And the really bad thing is this: These people come on these boards and try to tell people where they are wrong as to the ***faith***.
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:25 PM
 
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Are you at least believing God that Christ died for our sins/offenses, was entombed and roused from the dead?
I don't see why Jesus had to die for our sins. That line does not work for me. I am a Christian because I was born Catholic and because I like the teachings of Jesus. I do not know if he was risen or not, but I would still like Jesus even if he was not risen.

I say the NIcene Creed every Sunday in Church because I am a Catholic and that is my religion, but religion is religion and in religion EVERYTHING goes.
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