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Old 12-15-2014, 12:12 PM
 
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A recent study into thebeliefs of people living in 137 countries concludes that religious people will be a minority in many developed countries by 2041.

If current trends continue, the crossing point, whereby atheists, agnostics, and “nones” equals the number of Christians in this country, will be in the year 2062. If that gives you reason to celebrate, consider this: by the year 2130, the percentage of Americans who identify themselves as Christian will equal a little more than 1 percent.


Atheists have their number: How the Christian right is hastening religion’s decline - Salon.com






100 years from now:




So why do you think that is?

 
Old 12-15-2014, 12:24 PM
 
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So why do you think that is?
Because the answers that Christianity/organized religion provides for some of Life's Big Questions and some of their dos and don'ts regarding behaviour, no longer resonate with today's more educated, discerning populace.
 
Old 12-15-2014, 12:51 PM
 
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I think it has to do with the current generation that is growing up, the millenials, which is one that I am actually in. Many of my peers just do not like having to deal with religious practices. We are a generation of wanting to know what, why, how, when, and who. Without those answers then many are going to other places to find answers. There are too many churches that are misusing the Bible and not teaching Christianity the way that Jesus explained it. We aren't supposed to be a people do things just because. We are supposed to be anti-religion in a sense that we are doing things out of our love for Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior, not because it's something I have been told to do every Sunday. Many of my friends or associates who have turned away from Christianity have come from uber-religious type churches where questioning has been shunned and that is turning off a large generation of people. We live in an information age, where if we as a church do not provide these answers someone will and unfortunately that's what is happening.
 
Old 12-15-2014, 01:20 PM
 
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They are correct! (in a sense). The number of people who consider themselves 'religious' and/or attend any type of church; even a Christian denomination; ... and even those who believe that 'God or a higher power' exist --- are falling away from religion and church in droves! And that is not an altogether 'bad thing' or unexpected, since it may ultimately lead them to tire of 'religion' and find fulfillment in Jesus Christ!

Most of these silly surveys/polls typically fail to understand or distinguish between true, 'Christ-believing, born-again' "Christians" and those only claiming to be 'religious' or attend church, or even those who claim to believe that God or a 'higher power' exist. But, even the latter is not the basis of true 'Christianity.' (In the Bible, James declares, "Even the demons know there is one God and tremble").

True 'Christians' are NOT falling-away from 'Christ'! --- And those who are only 'religious,' have nothing more than a remote observation or an empty 'religious experience' to fall-away from!

Actually, there is a worldwide growth in new 'Christians' who are committing their lives to Jesus Christ; the strongest of which is actually occurring in countries where true 'Christians' are openly persecuted and imprisoned! ('Go figure!'). – If that were not so, then Christianity would die-out in every generation along with living Christians … instead of refreshing itself and remaining healthy and active after more than 2000 years!

-- Another thing the world fails to understand is that true Christianity is not evidenced by the largest crowds or popularity polls. It is reflected in the dedicated commitment of lives to Jesus Christ ... on a very narrow road that actually leads somewhere --- besides destruction.

Most who take glib pot-shots at Christians on blogs ... or claim to know all about 'Christianity' - and decided it was lacking, are clearly only 'bouncing along the surface of 'religion'. They may know about 'religious folks' who are weary of attending weekly or occasional church (even Christian denominations) in search of 'entertainment.' But, they are totally unfamiliar with the huge body of 'true Christians' who live-out their faith daily and would die before renouncing their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

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Old 12-15-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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A recent study into thebeliefs of people living in 137 countries concludes that religious people will be a minority in many developed countries by 2041.

If current trends continue, the crossing point, whereby atheists, agnostics, and “nones” equals the number of Christians in this country, will be in the year 2062. If that gives you reason to celebrate, consider this: by the year 2130, the percentage of Americans who identify themselves as Christian will equal a little more than 1 percent.


Atheists have their number: How the Christian right is hastening religion’s decline - Salon.com






100 years from now:




So why do you think that is?
The waters of Babylon the Great are drying up and Matt 7:21-23 is becoming more and more obvious.
 
Old 12-15-2014, 02:20 PM
 
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First religions won't die, they only shift from one to another.

What ultimately defines religions is the providing of a saying about what would happen after death. Religions thus will persist as long as what would happen after death cannot be confirmed to humans.

So all can be changed is a religion shift, that is, the shifting from one religion to another. Christianity can thus be shifted to the atheistic belief that "nothing serious would occur after death", or "nothing would happen after death".

Everyone without exception does have a faith (in the end, it's a belief of what would happen after death), difference could be that whether you realize that you have such a faith or not.


That said, the mark of the beast is our education system. On the one we rely on our education to find a job to make a living generally speaking (the buy and sale), on the other people are educated to secular or even anti-religion after graduated from such a system. A stamp is given to everyone of them that it leaves a mark on their forehead which governs how they think, and a mark on their right hand which governs how they action/behave.

The above actually marks where we are in the book of revelation. The white horse with a bow represents the power of the "great whites" came out conquering the world. Followed by is the red horse with a sword, the power of the communism, which demonstrated its power through the violent red revolution. The followed is the non-white (black horse with a scale) power such as China and India. They influence the world with their economic power instead of military power.

Then it will come the force of the death (pale horse), which is the power composed of secular people and secular governments (the force of the death). Followed by will be the persecution of Christians one way or another (souls of the saints slain). In the book of revelation, it is said that their number is like sands surrounding the camp of God's people.

This is expected and prophesied.
 
Old 12-15-2014, 02:27 PM
 
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First religions won't die, they only shift from one to another.

What ultimately defines religions is the providing of a saying about what would happen after death. Religions thus will persist as long as what would happen after death cannot be confirmed to humans.

So all can be changed is a religion shift, that is, the shifting from one religion to another. Christianity can thus be shifted to the atheistic belief that "nothing serious would occur after death", or "nothing would happen after death".

Everyone without exception does have a faith (in the end, it's a belief of what would happen after death), difference could be that whether you realize that you have such a faith or not.


That said, the mark of the beast is our education system. On the one we rely on our education to find a job to make a living generally speaking (the buy and sale), on the other people are educated to secular or even anti-religion after graduated from such a system. A stamp is given to everyone of them that it leaves a mark on their forehead which governs how they think, and a mark on their right hand which governs how they action/behave.

The above actually marks where we are in the book of revelation. The white horse with a bow represents the power of the "great whites" came out conquering the world. Followed by is the red horse with a sword, the power of the communism, which demonstrated its power through the violent red revolution. The followed is the non-white (black horse with a scale) power such as China and India. They influence the world with their economic power instead of military power.

Then it will come the force of the death (pale horse), which is the power composed of secular people and secular governments (the force of the death). Followed by will be the persecution of Christians one way or another (souls of the saints slain). In the book of revelation, it is said that their number is like sands surrounding the camp of God's people.

This is expected and prophesied.
They won't die, but they will be diminished.
 
Old 12-15-2014, 03:22 PM
 
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distinguish between true, 'Christ-believing, born-again' "Christians" and those only claiming to be 'religious' or attend church, or even those who claim to believe that God or a 'higher power' exist. But, even the latter is not the basis of true 'Christianity.'
Sounds like the No True Scotsman fallacy to me.
 
Old 12-15-2014, 03:37 PM
 
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A recent study into thebeliefs of people living in 137 countries concludes that religious people will be a minority in many developed countries by 2041.

If current trends continue, the crossing point, whereby atheists, agnostics, and “nones” equals the number of Christians in this country, will be in the year 2062. If that gives you reason to celebrate, consider this: by the year 2130, the percentage of Americans who identify themselves as Christian will equal a little more than 1 percent.


Atheists have their number: How the Christian right is hastening religion’s decline - Salon.com



100 years from now:




So why do you think that is?
That may be in reference to people who call themselves "Christians". I truely believe the actual number of real followers of Christ is very small. So maybe it is just the people that call themselves "Christians" are declining. In that case I would agree. But then again if it didn't then the fullness of the Gentiles as reported by Christ may not be realized. So that would mean that the article is giving the message of Christ a lot more weight.
 
Old 12-15-2014, 03:42 PM
 
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Maybe it is long past time that the organized religions pull their heads out of their collective bunwahs and re-examine the dogma and the theology of the past 15 centuries.

God has tried to inspire us out of the errors of the human perspective for at least that long.

He inspired the reformation. When that failed to work out, He inspired the enlightenment, and modern science.

Yet organized religions continues to fail. Most are stuck on the stupid of Augustine and hell, and the hate and the tyranny of fear of the middle ages in Europe and Asia Minor.

We are on the brink. God has led us here. Whence our journey?
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