There's something fishy about Deuteronomy 32 (Torah, Tanakh, HaShem, woman)
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Whew!! that was a long rambling one, wasn't it!!!! Makes you wonder just what kind of god Moses was talking about.
I looked it up in one of our reference books. That particular author calls it A Song For The People To Sing. I guess, that like a lot of songs, it tends to go overboard a little.
I guess I missed your point about what might have been "fishy" about the chapter. Sorry. I don't read the OT too well. It's so often too rambling and disjointed. I get to wondering how it could have been meant in the original language, and then, what could be done to make it more meaningful for today. The OT is not my favorite reading material.
Whew!! that was a long rambling one, wasn't it!!!! Makes you wonder just what kind of god Moses was talking about.
I looked it up in one of our reference books. That particular author calls it A Song For The People To Sing. I guess, that like a lot of songs, it tends to go overboard a little.
I guess I missed your point about what might have been "fishy" about the chapter. Sorry. I don't read the OT too well. It's so often too rambling and disjointed. I get to wondering how it could have been meant in the original language, and then, what could be done to make it more meaningful for today. The OT is not my favorite reading material.
Yes it sure is. Unlike you, the OT was always a good read for me. The stories in are interesting to say the least.
In any event, there are a couple of verses in that chapter that speaks volumes, but often overlooked.
Whew!! that was a long rambling one, wasn't it!!!! Makes you wonder just what kind of god Moses was talking about.
I looked it up in one of our reference books. That particular author calls it A Song For The People To Sing. I guess, that like a lot of songs, it tends to go overboard a little.
I guess I missed your point about what might have been "fishy" about the chapter. Sorry. I don't read the OT too well. It's so often too rambling and disjointed. I get to wondering how it could have been meant in the original language, and then, what could be done to make it more meaningful for today. The OT is not my favorite reading material.
I'm actually interested in seeing Alpha in here since he says that 'every' argument against his faith has been presented here and he has heard them all. Maybe he has, but I hope he does not cheat by using Google. LOL!!!
I'm actually interested in seeing Alpha in here since he says that 'every' argument against his faith has been presented here and he has heard them all. Maybe he has, but I hope he does not cheat by using Google. LOL!!!
I know you don't ask any questions to try and understand or comprehend, your sole purpose is to drop seeds of unbelief. I'm not one to take that bait and so I'm really just interested in those that respond to your posts.
But anyway, there's truly something about you I can identify with so if you wanna actually talk about something, share it.
I know you don't ask any questions to try and understand or comprehend...
This might surprise you, but actually I do. When you say 'understand,' you mean as in "accept the common Christan understanding even if not thought through in objective terms" or 'understand' as in careful, honest, critical analysis?
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...your sole purpose is to drop seeds of unbelief.
If unbelief results from careful analysis of the scriptures, is that a bad thing if the story is actually broken down on a level to be understood? That's like me proving to my grandmother that "jumbies" (ghosts) do not really live in the mango tree in the backyard just because she hears some ruffling and she objects that I am trying to drop seeds of unbelief.
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I'm not one to take that bait and so I'm really just interested in those that respond to your posts.
That's cool Alpha. Feel free to enjoy watching the people who enjoy watching the show.
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But anyway, there's truly something about you I can identify with so if you wanna actually talk about something, share it.
If there's something you actually want to talk about regarding Dt 32, then share it.
I have to agree with Alpha. If there is something specific...could you break it down for us. I would love to read your thoughts on the subject. I am by no means a Bible thumper. Sadly, I do not read it often. However, I took the time to read Dt. 32 and actually enjoyed it. I am just a simple woman of Faith. I would love to see some good sparring happen. Usually all we get is "my God and my Bible are real" and "no they aren't"...."yes, they are", "no, they aren't".
Well, I give up! Of course, I'm not an Old Testament scholar, by any stretch, but I just finished reading the chapter, and I'm not seeing anything fishy, as such, barring the usual round of violence, (verses 25, 41, and 42), that seems to be in so many OT stories. The heading in my Bible calls it, "Mose's song, which setteth forth God's mercy and vengeance". So give, 24/7, you have my curiosity roused, needless to say.
Hey 24/7 could you give us a clue what you think is "Fishy".
Are you talking about: deut 32:12
Torah :12. [So] the Lord guided them alone, and there was no alien deity with Him.
Tanakh JPS 12 HaShem alone did lead him, and there was no strange god with Him.
NIV
12 The LORD alone led him;
no foreign god was with him.
KJV 12So the LORD alone did lead him, and there was no strange god with him.
or is it
tanakh jps 21 They have roused Me to jealousy with a no-god; they have provoked Me with their vanities; and I will rouse them to jealousy with a no-people; I will provoke them with a vile nation.
NIV 21 They made me jealous by what is no god
and angered me with their worthless idols.
I will make them envious by those who are not a people;
I will make them angry by a nation that has no understanding.
Last edited by shibainu; 01-18-2008 at 09:36 AM..
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The heading in my Bible calls it, "Mose's song, which setteth forth God's mercy and vengeance". So give, 24/7, you have my curiosity roused, needless to say.
