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True, curly, many will not receive the truth . . . during this eon and the next (thousand year eon) and the next (new earth eon or age). But all eventually will receive this truth and Him Who is THE Truth for my Bible tells me God will save all mankind and is the Saviour of all mankind because Christ ransomed all mankind (1 Timothy 2:4-6; 4:10,11). It is not based upon our reception of it but upon what Christ did.
It is indeed what it is. Our God declares through His servant St. Paul that the all ends in our God. The all does not end in some dimension outside of our Father's Realm (there is no such animal), but the all/ the ta pavnte ends in Him!
It is indeed what it is. Our God declares through His servant St. Paul that the all ends in our God. The all does not end in some dimension outside of our Father's Realm (there is no such animal), but the all/ the ta pavnte ends in Him!
Yes, I know all this....and am very thankful for what Jesus did for me and the whole world on the cross.........BUT many don't want or believe what God offers through Jesus Christ.....and the Scripture teach this!!
It is sad to even think about it....but sin will be destroyed in the lake of fire (hell) so it can not hurt us any more....and many will fall for the lie of Satan, that their sin, rebelling against the Living God that there is no consequence to it...The wages of sin is death! Death from the reality of God and what He has provided for a world lost in its sin. They love the darkness rather then the light, Jesus the precious Lamb of God whom He provided for the wages of sin!!!
It is sad to even think about it....but sin will be destroyed in the lake of fire (hell) so it can not hurt us any more.
Curly; you will note that death and hell/hades are cast into the Lake of Theos/Pur. Hell is not cast into itself, death and hell are consummated in the Lake radiating with theion/ theios, rooted in Theos. Let me repeat again, from Him everything comes, through Him everything exists, and in Him everything ends. Source, Guide and Goal of all that is. To whom be glory forever!
To all whom may wonder.....
This post is actually what hell is about....a lie!! Where all lies are going one day!!
It denies Christ and the blood He shed on the cross for sin....
Satan has been trying to keep Christ off the cross since the beginning of time... he tried to use nations, kings, anything he could and can...yes, even the average Joe....whatever tactics he could he still trying to use and do it....he knows that if he can get those to believe there is no such thing as hell, a place for the destruction of sin.... he has over powered the truth of why Christ was crucified, for our sin!!
To deliver ones soul from.... He is the Atonement. It is in the BLOOD....the ULTIMATE sacrifice poured upon the cross and Satan knows this....... and he will use anything to take the heart away from the purpose of it....
Blessings
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Dear Birdy, it is not Curly you argue with but God and and His word.....
John 3:18-21
"He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who does the truth come to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.
Yes, Christ died for the whole world to reconcile it back to the Father..... BUT, not all will receive Him....if you notice in the Scripture above it is a choice...that is what is so beautiful about God's mercy and love, He gives people the choice and opportunity through Christ to choose heaven!!
Sorry Birdy, but it is what it is.....
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Such arrogance..... and we know where that and whom that comes from....it sure isn't Jesus, that's for sure!!
Because my Lord Jesus is a loving God....there wasn't an arrogant bone in His body...Hallulajah!!! Jesus tells us ....you will know them by their fruit!!
And one whom continues to defend there is no destructions of sin....denies the Cross!! Satan comes as the light, using the very words of God to deceive many!!
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Yes, God is omnipresent, the source and goal of all that is.....BUT many will not receive this TRUTH!!!
It is what it is.....
AMEN CURLY!!!!!!!!! How sad to see how the devil has blinded people to the truth, God is holy and He is incompatible with unholy things, He cannot change, so He sent Jesus to pave the way to change us. The ONLY way to escape hell is to accept Jesus' death as payment for our sin. Unbelievers are doomed to hell forever because they are incompatible with Heaven. They have not been cleansed of the sin that makes them incompatible.
What people receive or believe matters nada! Our God declares everything ends in Him.
There is the lie and twisting of the Scripture in bold.... Then what universalism teaches, that the blood of Christ was for nothing!!!
The Scripture teach that God is a loving God and His mercy does not force anyone one to love Him.....
He gives each and everyone of us understanding that we can either receive His love now or throw it away. He permits all to make that decision,....regardless what universalism teach!!
This teaching of universalism is just another tool of Satan....teaching and denying the cross of Christ...forgiveness is through the BLOOD!!! Without the BLOOD no person will escape the punishment that is coming from the rebellion of sin!!
That is why one needs the Holy Spirit to keep and lead them into the TRUTH. He reveals the dark crafty lies of Satan...or they will be tossed to and fro with every teaching that denies Jesus Christ, Him crucified. Forgiveness is given through the BLOOD! It covers my sin and anyone else who will receive Christ Jesus into their life.....
It is what is..........
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AMEN CURLY!!!!!!!!! How sad to see how the devil has blinded people to the truth, God is holy and He is incompatible with unholy things, He cannot change, so He sent Jesus to pave the way to change us. The ONLY way to escape hell is to accept Jesus' death as payment for our sin. Unbelievers are doomed to hell forever because they are incompatible with Heaven. They have not been cleansed of the sin that makes them incompatible.
The Scripture teach that God is a loving God and His mercy does not force anyone one to love Him.....
He gives each and everyone of us understanding that we can either receive His love now or throw it away. He permits all to make that decision,....regardless what universalism teach!!
Curly: the restitution of all things teaches that our God from whom everything comes has purposed in Himself that the all/ the ta pavnte is to be consummated in His beloved Son in the fulness of times.
You will note: "purposed in Himself"! The Love of God prevails! No one throws it away, every knee ultimately bows, every knee ultimately confesses IN/en the Name of Jesus, "You are Lord". This confession is not by rote, or perfunctory genuflections, but in union with the Name of all names, and to the great glory of the Father. It is one of unrestrained worship, praise and thanksgiving, by all beings in the heavens, the earth, and the underworld.
"He has made known to us the secret of His will. And this is in harmony with God's merciful purpose for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it--the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in heaven and things on earth, to find their one head in Him. And you too, who in Him were made heirs, having been chosen beforehand in accordance with the intention of Him whose might carries out in everything the design of His own will."
Note:
1. His secret.
2. His will.
3. His purpose.
4. His choosing.
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many will not believe or receive this TRUTH!! And the Scripture tells us this, it does not lie!!!
and we know where that and whom that comes from....it sure isn't Jesus, that's for sure!!
