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Old 04-30-2009, 09:47 AM
 
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Curly: the restitution of all things teaches that our God from whom everything comes has purposed in Himself that the all/ the ta pavnte is to be consummated in His beloved Son in the fulness of times.

You will note: "purposed in Himself"! The Love of God prevails! No one throws it away, every knee ultimately bows, every knee ultimately confesses IN/en the Name of Jesus, "You are Lord". This confession is not by rote, or perfunctory genuflections, but in union with the Name of all names, and to the great glory of the Father. It is one of unrestrained worship, praise and thanksgiving, by all beings in the heavens, the earth, and the underworld.

"He has made known to us the secret of His will. And this is in harmony with God's merciful purpose for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it--the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in heaven and things on earth, to find their one head in Him. And you too, who in Him were made heirs, having been chosen beforehand in accordance with the intention of Him whose might carries out in everything the design of His own will."
There is no secret.....Christ hang on the cross for the whole world to see!!! It is the BLOOD of Christ poured out on a cross that covers the sin for the whole world.....and no man can deny that!!
They can receive the BLOOD of His sacrifice or not!!!

It is what it is................
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Old 04-30-2009, 09:54 AM
 
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There is the lie and twisting of the Scripture in bold.... Then what universalism teaches, that the blood of Christ was for nothing!!!
The blood of Jesus Christ is for nothing? Surely you have become discombobulated indeed!

Follow the bouncing ball, Curly....

"As one man's trespass led to condemnation for all mankind

so

one man's act or righteousness/ obedience leads to acquittal and life for all mankind."


Pas>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pas

Polus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Polus
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Old 04-30-2009, 09:56 AM
 
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Yes, I know all this....and am very thankful for what Jesus did for me and the whole world on the cross.........BUT many don't want or believe what God offers through Jesus Christ.....and the Scripture teach this!!
The scripture tells us that there is none that can deny Him, or deter His will (Romans 9, Eph 1, Isa 46, etc)...

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It is sad to even think about it....but sin will be destroyed in the lake of fire (hell) so it can not hurt us any more....and many will fall for the lie of Satan, that their sin, rebelling against the Living God that there is no consequence to it...
We have all been saying that there are consequences!! Where do you keep getting this??


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The wages of sin is death! Death from the reality of God and what He has provided for a world lost in its sin. They love the darkness rather then the light, Jesus the precious Lamb of God whom He provided for the wages of sin!!!
The soul that sinneth shall die (Eze 18) and spoken to Adam in the Garden.

He sinned. We died.

"Death from the reality of God and what He has provided for a world lost in its sin" you say...isn't that exactly what happened at the Fall? The tree of the "knowledge of good and evil" is all we're aware of - this forum doesn't see the totality of "life" (the other tree) in Him - His dominion superceeds the mind who is captivated by black and white - it's all His!



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It is what it is............
Exactly.
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Old 04-30-2009, 09:58 AM
 
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There is no secret.
But there is a secret, Curly, and it requires the opening of one's eyes and heart to fathom!

"He has made known to us the secret of His will. And this is in harmony with God's merciful purpose for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it--the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in heaven and things on earth, to find their one head in Him. And you too, who in Him were made heirs, having been chosen beforehand in accordance with the intention of Him whose might carries out in everything the design of His own will."
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:05 AM
 
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The blood of Jesus Christ is for nothing? Surely you have become discombobulated indeed!

Follow the bouncing ball, Curly....

"As one man's trespass led to condemnation for all mankind

so

one man's act or righteousness/ obedience leads to acquittal and life for all mankind."


Pas>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pas

Polus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Polus
Your still denying the BLOOD of Christ...that was poured out for the covering of ones sin....
And that place that sin will be punished at is in the lake of fire....(Hell, hades,) Quenched forever and ever....never to harm the children of God again.....Thank You, Lord Jesus!!!
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:20 AM
 
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Your still denying the BLOOD of Christ...that was poured out for the covering of ones sin....
And that place that sin will be punished at is in the lake of fire....(Hell, hades,) Quenched forever and ever....never to harm the children of God again.....Thank You, Lord Jesus!!!
Sin is not punished in the Lake of Theos/ Pur, little lady, sin has been dealt with at the cross of the Master of the Reconcilation. The mass of mankind made slaves to sin in Adam 1 are the same mass of mankind "made righteous" in the Last Adam, the Mercy Seat for our sins, AND the sins of the whole world!

Again: hell is not cast into itself, hell is consummated, with death, in the Lake of Pur radiating with theion/ theios, rooted in Theos!

And I will add Curly, our Father does not simply cover our sins, He destroys them. Being accounted righteous is but one step in beoming the righteousness of God in Him. The whole creation, the heavens, the earth, and the underworld will "be made righteous."
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:41 AM
 
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Sin is not punished in the Lake of Theos/ Pur, little lady, sin has been dealt with at the cross of the Master of the Reconcilation. The mass of mankind made slaves to sin in Adam 1 are the same mass of mankind "made righteous" in the Last Adam, the Mercy Seat for our sins, AND the sins of the whole world!

Again: hell is not cast into itself, hell is consummated, with death, in the Lake of Pur radiating with theion/ theios, rooted in Theos!

And I will add Curly, our Father does not simply cover our sins, He destroys them. Being accounted righteous is but one step in beoming the righteousness of God in Him. The whole creation, the heavens, the earth, and the underworld will "be made righteous."
Do you always degrade peoples intelligence? And the bouncy ball thing.... I'm not a child...but am a woman of integrity who loves her Lord very much....!! And I believe the Scripture and depend upon God's Holy Spirit in what Christ has done!!! Before I will listen to any man's interpretations of what he says the Scripture is suppose to say.....especially those who teach heresy!!!
You don't have to insult or degrade people to get your point of view or opinion across to other's......
So glad God has seen today and the motive of the heart in this thread!!!

Careful.....
Birdy!!! You'll be surprised someday, what goes around comes around...God will not be mocked....a man does reap what he sows!!!


I'll still be praying for you and all!
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:51 AM
 
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heresy!!!
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:55 AM
 
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The scripture tells us that there is none that can deny Him, or deter His will (Romans 9, Eph 1, Isa 46, etc)...



We have all been saying that there are consequences!! Where do you keep getting this??




The soul that sinneth shall die (Eze 18) and spoken to Adam in the Garden.

He sinned. We died.

"Death from the reality of God and what He has provided for a world lost in its sin" you say...isn't that exactly what happened at the Fall? The tree of the "knowledge of good and evil" is all we're aware of - this forum doesn't see the totality of "life" (the other tree) in Him - His dominion superceeds the mind who is captivated by black and white - it's all His!





Exactly.
Satan comes in the light..... he uses the scripture, but there is always something left out or twisted...universalism is a heresy and denies the ultimate sacrifice of Jesus Christ..... there will not be a reconcilation of all things....there is a hell, whether one wants to believe it or not! And many will fall into the pit, because they choose death and their sin over God's gift of life through Jesus Christ! There is no second chance after a person dies.....it's now or never!

The one reason I could never turn to universalism.....is the heart of the spirit! The attitudes of arrogance, pride, haughtiness, gossipers, provoker and accusers of the TRUE CHILDREN OF GOD! A very deep anger comes across with those who hold to this teaching! All the things in opposition of God's love.....
Jesus warned us of the false teachers that will come in the last days....they believe and teach their fathers lies....

Blessings

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Old 04-30-2009, 10:58 AM
 
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Thank you for your prayers on my behalf, Curly. The apostle St. Paul wrote...

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..making mention of you in my prayers. That the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation through an intimate knowledge of Himself; the eyes of your heart being enlightened so that you may know what is the hope which His call to you inspires.
That, little lady, is my prayer for all of God's household!

Do you know what happens to forks that are placed in proximity to a tuning fork that is humming and vibrating?
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