What do you believe within Christianity? (people, difference, sin, mystic)
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According to liberal Christianity, what happens to atheists after they die? Is there a heaven for atheists who do enough good works to offset their atheism? Doesn't Jesus say that anyone who doesn't believe in him is condemned (right after John 3:16)?
I sure do!! You're almost the same kind of sinner as me, but perhaps a few rungs up the ladder from my spiritual condition! So I view you as my better and deserving of more respect.
According to liberal Christianity, what happens to atheists after they die?
They get a really big surprise when they find out there's free beer in heaven. Those who abstain get to hang out with the fundamentalists who think Jesus turned water into fruit punch. (The fundamentalists get a really big surprise when they find out the Mormons are there.)
According to liberal Christianity, what happens to atheists after they die? Is there a heaven for atheists who do enough good works to offset their atheism? Doesn't Jesus say that anyone who doesn't believe in him is condemned (right after John 3:16)?
I have no idea what other liberals think about afterlife. As an existentialist Christ follower, I don't think about it at all. It's unimportant in terms of serving Jesus NOW. Serving Christ now is the only meaningful life, and is done in joy and gratitude after recognizing my own sin and my need of a Savior, and then treat everyone I meet as a potential recipient of the same grace.
Works are a fruit of spiritual life, not necessarily a path to salvation. But Jesus does appear to respect works a lot more than faith.
And the gospel of John has many interesting stories about Jesus. Yet the personality of Jesus is far different from that of Jesus in the synoptic gospels. We have in John, a portrait of a Christ more fully developed in the budding faith. No doubt He has taken on some Pauline characteristics and has developed speech to refute the gnostic "heresies that had begun to arise. I love many of the stories and cherish them as early testimony of the faith. But they are much further from the historical Jesus.
I do think there may be some sort of separation of "sheep from goats," but it isn't my function to determine that division. God called me to love sheep with or without horns, with or without being the recipient of some head butts.
And Freak, I would' be disappointed in having you as a neighbor---depending of course on what neighborhood we find ourselves in.
According to liberal Christianity, what happens to atheists after they die? Is there a heaven for atheists who do enough good works to offset their atheism? Doesn't Jesus say that anyone who doesn't believe in him is condemned (right after John 3:16)?
And what will be, will be. What will be should be. And everyone else is a coward (Latin translation below)
According to liberal Christianity, what happens to atheists after they die? Is there a heaven for atheists who do enough good works to offset their atheism? Doesn't Jesus say that anyone who doesn't believe in him is condemned (right after John 3:16)?
I think liberal Christians would not take it literally. "living Christ" is not totally dependent on langue. Jesus is a perspective, not a "thing". So whoever lives that perspective is him. I actually think no one man can live his perspective totally but I do think a group of people can. Jesus is too liberal for me but that's my problem that I work on every day. I like Washington, Lee, Sherman, and Paine myself.
If you are not living his perspective than you are "condemned" to a life of anger, hate, and despair. Because that is all there is left over. And if you every saw a person living angry very day you know the deep seeded turmoil.
so if you think that sounds reasonable then there is no worries because it is independent of thinking he rose or not. When you can burn a bible with no emotion involved you understand. Actually when you can you'll have no need too. If you think the bible must be taken literally then you are wrong.
besides, no way god don't get a freak on every now an again.
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They get a really big surprise when they find out there's free beer in heaven. Those who abstain get to hang out with the fundamentalists who think Jesus turned water into fruit punch. (The fundamentalists get a really big surprise when they find out the Mormons are there.)
Sounds like fun!
Since it's heaven, is there no risk of alcohol dependence?
I think liberal Christians would not take it literally. "living Christ" is not totally dependent on langue. Jesus is a perspective, not a "thing". So whoever lives that perspective is him. I actually think no one man can live his perspective totally but I do think a group of people can. Jesus is too liberal for me but that's my problem that I work on every day. I like Washington, Lee, Sherman, and Paine myself.
If you are not living his perspective than you are "condemned" to a life of anger, hate, and despair. Because that is all there is left over. And if you every saw a person living angry very day you know the deep seeded turmoil.
so if you think that sounds reasonable then there is no worries because it is independent of thinking he rose or not. When you can burn a bible with no emotion involved you understand. Actually when you can you'll have no need too. If you think the bible must be taken literally then you are wrong.
besides, no way god don't get a freak on every now an again.
I'm no psychic, but I know the spiritual condition of all men. Your posts indicate you believe there is sinless perfection for some. You still aren't acknowledging where you are--at least from anything you post on CD.
I didn't realize I was supposed to acknowledge all of my sinfulness on CD. I'm not sure where you are going with this, but it's funny how this conversation went from me originally stating that you aren't showing agape love, to now being focused on me acknowledging sinfulness.
Let's get back to what I originally said, the reality is this. If you as a believer, have a sin, and you acknowledge the sin but you still continue in that sin without repentance, then it's no longer just sin, it's an iniquity. You have basically acknowledged that you have not been civil, to myself and others on here and you use the excuse that I'm sinful. Well if you're still doing it, and knowingly doing it, then you are not repenting. Taking it a step further, just to show you where you actually are, you decide to try to take the attention off of yourself and onto me because you don't want to deal with your own plank.
Just to be frank with you, you have been very smug with your responses on here. Many of your responses are long-winded and full of anger. I honestly stop reading and responding to your post because it's sickening that someone can be so hypocritical. You go on these ridiculous rants on people and when you are called out, you just say you're sinful and you're working on it. Well how about you work on it instead of harassing people on here?
I didn't realize I was supposed to acknowledge all of my sinfulness on CD. I'm not sure where you are going with this, but it's funny how this conversation went from me originally stating that you aren't showing agape love, to now being focused on me acknowledging sinfulness.
Let's get back to what I originally said, the reality is this. If you as a believer, have a sin, and you acknowledge the sin but you still continue in that sin without repentance, then it's no longer just sin, it's an iniquity. You have basically acknowledged that you have not been civil, to myself and others on here and you use the excuse that I'm sinful. Well if you're still doing it, and knowingly doing it, then you are not repenting. Taking it a step further, just to show you where you actually are, you decide to try to take the attention off of yourself and onto me because you don't want to deal with your own plank.
Just to be frank with you, you have been very smug with your responses on here. Many of your responses are long-winded and full of anger. I honestly stop reading and responding to your post because it's sickening that someone can be so hypocritical. You go on these ridiculous rants on people and when you are called out, you just say you're sinful and you're working on it. Well how about you work on it instead of harassing people on here?
not a requirement. But with all the stones you throw, it leads one to believe you are without sin..
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