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Having faith means obeying the word of God. You cant be a practicing homosexual and think you are saved, as they havent even repented of their own sin of sexual immorality.
That only applies to you. It is the message you hear and follow.
And sin is God defined. Homosexuality is sexual immorality and is a SIN. Man-made doctrine says Homosexuality is natural and Biblical doctrine says its detestable.
Homosexuality is not immoral.
When religion vilifies a group of people injustly then that religion is immoral.
Here's an idea: why don't we ask God directly for his opinion on the issue, rather than relying on his self-proclaimed mouthpieces. It's funny how God can only speak to humanity with the help of various middle-men.
Their double standard is kinda amusing. For example, they use the fact that Jesus doesn't speak out against homosexuality using that specific term to conclude that Jesus approved of homosexuality.
Yet, they have no problem applying a gay interpretation involving David and Jonathan based only on a couple of vague verses that never specifically mention homosexuality.
Jeff, is that any different than those who said that just because God or Jesus did not condemm slavery does not mean that he condones it?
Here's an idea: why don't we ask God directly for his opinion on the issue, rather than relying on his self-proclaimed mouthpieces. It's funny how God speaks exclusively through middle-men.
He has told us what he thinks. It's recorded in the Bible. I'm not spouting off with my own opinion--I preach what God has already said. It's the guy that claims Jesus been talking to him that you need to worry about.
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He has told us what he thinks. It's recorded in the Bible. I'm not spouting off with my own opinion--I preach what God has already said. It's the guy that claims Jesus been talking to him that you need to worry about.
I agree!
Which why so many are concerned about what Paul said. Why should we believe Paul and not anybody else who think that Jesus is talking to them?
He has told us what he thinks. It's recorded in the Bible. I'm not spouting off with my own opinion--I preach what God has already said. It's the guy that claims Jesus been talking to him that you need to worry about.
How do you know the bible is a record of what (your) God thinks? Unless you have evidence to back up that extraordinary claim, it's just your opinion.
I agree, the guy/gal who thinks he/she is getting direct communication from Jesus is baths--t crazy.
And SAAN would probably say the exact same thing about you.
Will the REAL mouthpiece of God please stand up?
I have no doubt. However, I make no claim to be God's mouth piece. I am solid in my faith, and beliefs, and my truth.
I do not abide discrimination against, LGTBQ, women, minorities, children, the elderly. My faith does not allow silence on this matter. It is that simple.
In 1 Samuel 20 David and Jonathan "kissed one another, and wept with one another" when they parted for, what they thought might be, the last time.
And they kissed one another, and wept one with another, until David exceeded. 20:41
And here’s what an article at ReligiousTolerance.org says about the whole David “exceeded” thing.
The original Hebrew text says that they kissed each other and wept together until David became large. The word which means "became large" in this passage is "gadal" in the original Hebrew. The same word is used elsewhere in the Hebrew Scriptures to refer to King Solomon being greater than all other kings. Some theologians interpret "gadal" in this verse as indicating that David had an erection.
Every translation I read says "exceeded" means David wept more which makes perfect sense in the context. Your interpretation is such a far reach that doesn't prove anything. Words in the Hebrew language often have double meanings.
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