Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Christianity
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-18-2015, 05:08 AM
 
Location: Florida
76,971 posts, read 47,716,928 times
Reputation: 14806

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by little elmer View Post
Speaking that which is not as though it were - just like His Daddy.
That's not much of an answer....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-18-2015, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Pilot Point, TX
7,874 posts, read 14,196,256 times
Reputation: 4820
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
That's not much of an answer....
Jesus saw the work finished, that is the answer. (Rom. 4:17)

God called an old man without an heir the "father of many nations".

The fig tree was fully alive, but He foretold that no man would eat of it again.

Is it not a trait of the Almighty that He "declares the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done"?

He looked past the cross...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-18-2015, 01:11 PM
 
6,366 posts, read 2,926,100 times
Reputation: 424
Quote:
Originally Posted by little elmer View Post
...and you better understand that Jesus was schooling a multitude about righteousness - His, or that of the pharisees...

...sounds familiar.

1John 3 says it all--it is a mirror for all to peer into--it teaches who is a child of God and who is a child of the devil and it says---- Its impossible for a child of God to practice even 1 sin.--- so it is telling everyone if you practice just one sin-you are not a child of God.
Many teachers lie and say Jesus death covers all sin--they are teachers of darkness. Ear ticklers.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-18-2015, 04:07 PM
 
Location: US
32,530 posts, read 22,077,642 times
Reputation: 2228
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjw47 View Post
1John 3 says it all--it is a mirror for all to peer into--it teaches who is a child of God and who is a child of the devil and it says---- Its impossible for a child of God to practice even 1 sin.--- so it is telling everyone if you practice just one sin-you are not a child of God.
Many teachers lie and say Jesus death covers all sin--they are teachers of darkness. Ear ticklers.
So, you don't sin?....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-18-2015, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Florida
76,971 posts, read 47,716,928 times
Reputation: 14806
Quote:
Originally Posted by little elmer View Post
Jesus saw the work finished, that is the answer. (Rom. 4:17)

God called an old man without an heir the "father of many nations".

The fig tree was fully alive, but He foretold that no man would eat of it again.

Is it not a trait of the Almighty that He "declares the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done"?

He looked past the cross...
Sure. He was speaking as if it had already happened.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-20-2015, 02:02 PM
 
6,366 posts, read 2,926,100 times
Reputation: 424
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard1965 View Post
So, you don't sin?....

its the practice of sin that is condemned.= willfull sin. When one knows it is sin but does it anyways. but there will be 0 excuse for not knowing what God disapproves of.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-20-2015, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
17,071 posts, read 10,942,588 times
Reputation: 1874
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjw47 View Post
its the practice of sin that is condemned.= willfull sin. When one knows it is sin but does it anyways. but there will be 0 excuse for not knowing what God disapproves of.
Good luck getting fundamentalist mindset to understand the difference, but
As far as "what" God disapproves of: simple: whatever is not based on the concern for the well-being of anyone in any situation.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-20-2015, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Florida -
10,213 posts, read 14,856,276 times
Reputation: 21848
Quote:
Originally Posted by little elmer View Post
In the garden of Gethsemane, Jesus prayed, “Father, I have finished the work which You have given Me to do.” How could He say that to His Father when He had not yet been crucified?

It was because He lived in the finished work—the realm of “done”. That’s the place of rest. And that’s where and how God wants you and I to live.

Christianity is not "DO", it's "DONE".

Long before man sinned, God already had the provision. The Bible tells us that Jesus was slain from the foundation of the world (Revelation 13:8). This means that everything you need accomplished in your life has been accomplished. Long before you see your healing, know that God has already finished the work of your healing. If you are in lack, see that all the work for your provision has been finished.

How do we live in the realm of “it is done?” Just look at Jesus. When He saw a man who was lame for 38 years, He said, “Rise, take up your bed and walk” (John 5:8). You don’t say that to the man unless you see the finished work.

Another time, Jesus saw a man in the synagogue whose arm was withered and said to him, “Stretch out your hand” (Matthew 12:13). Jesus treated the man who was lame like he had a pair of strong, healthy legs, and the man whose arm was withered like his arm was whole. He walked in the finished work.

The old covenant was demanding; the new covenant of His grace is supply.
Good Point! -- This is actually similar to the promises God has spoken into existence in scripture (by the same 'Word' that He spoke the universe and life into existence). All that remains is for man to take hold of the promise in faith! No further consideration or action on God's part is necessary.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2015, 01:47 PM
 
6,366 posts, read 2,926,100 times
Reputation: 424
Quote:
Originally Posted by nateswift View Post
Good luck getting fundamentalist mindset to understand the difference, but
As far as "what" God disapproves of: simple: whatever is not based on the concern for the well-being of anyone in any situation.

Partaking off the table of demons is a big part of it.( 1Cor 10:21) satan uses love and sharing( and false god worship) by transforming into an angel of light( 2Cor 11:12-15) and gets 99% to partake off that table regularly.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2015, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
17,071 posts, read 10,942,588 times
Reputation: 1874
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjw47 View Post
Partaking off the table of demons is a big part of it.( 1Cor 10:21) satan uses love and sharing( and false god worship) by transforming into an angel of light( 2Cor 11:12-15) and gets 99% to partake off that table regularly.
The words don't seem to mean anything to me. Can you give me an example?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Christianity

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top