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Old 07-23-2019, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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When your sin is so bad that it hurts other people then it should be denounced. Here's a recent article that directly puts the blame on gay men for an "alarming rise" in STDS.




https://www.christian.org.uk/news/al...Z4hABKspxRM7K4
It’s because emphasis on condoms has been decreased. Isn’t that one of the core beliefs of fundamentalism? Deny condoms to sexually active people.

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Federal funding for STD prevention has ticked down over the last decade and a half.

“It’s not a coincidence STDs are skyrocketing,” David Harvey, the coalition’s executive director, said in a statement.
https://www.statnews.com/2018/08/28/...-record-highs/

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So in some ways, the STD increases across the country may have less to do with a changing sexual landscape, and more to do with more limited access to sexual health care. With Trump’s proposed public health budget cuts, the problem may be poised to get worse.
https://www.statnews.com/2018/08/28/...-record-highs/

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"Condoms kill." Statement on a poster by pro-lifers demonstrating in front of a Red Cross office in Salt Lake City, UT.
Condoms: Life savers or killers?

Find a social problem and it can usually be traced back to a fundamentalist “christian.”

Write your congressman and tell him to support sex education and condom distribution. It would be one of the few good things you ever tried. It might lessen your guilt for vicariously killing people of both heterosexual and homosexual “persuasion” as your ignorant mind prefers to think.

 
Old 07-23-2019, 03:17 PM
 
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When your sin is so bad that it hurts other people then it should be denounced. Here's a recent article that directly puts the blame on gay men for an "alarming rise" in STDS.




https://www.christian.org.uk/news/al...Z4hABKspxRM7K4
Jeff

Neither articles the one you linked to even mention gays. Yes it is true that the decrease in concerns about HIV was suggested for a reason for the increase in STD but it did not mention homosexuals at all that I could see.

Unless HIV is strickly a homosexual disease, it is the Christian article that is adding gay men that the articles they linked did not.

Did you read the BBC or Telegraph articles? If not, why not?

The articles mentioned the need to use condoms to prevent the spread of STD. Yes that is good advice and should be headed.

And nothing in the three articles presented any harm done to others by two women marrying or even two men marrying or a man and a woman living together unmarried. So none of those sins are so bad because they do not harm anyone else.
 
Old 07-23-2019, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Compared to what? Do you believe you were sinless otherwise?
If you believed all sins are “equal” you would have no more problem with homosexuals in your church, teaching, preaching, singing, or serving on church councils than you do any of the fat adulterous sinners doing the same.

You do have a problem thereby proving the OP’s POV.
 
Old 07-23-2019, 03:20 PM
 
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The purpose of sex is to procreate so I don't know if that means we as Christians don't value "enjoying a good sex life", in your words.
The purpose of sex for most humans is first to be close to their partner, to enjoy themselves, and also to procreate. Most humans enjoy sex for many reasons other than off-spring.
 
Old 07-23-2019, 03:21 PM
 
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Yes. With their spouse. Sex is not a bad thing. It's a good thing.
The bible says nothing about having to be with ONE spouse, does it? Do I need to show that infographic again?
 
Old 07-23-2019, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Jeff

Neither articles the one you linked to even mention gays. Yes it is true that the decrease in concerns about HIV was suggested for a reason for the increase in STD but it did not mention homosexuals at all that I could see.

Unless HIV is strickly a homosexual disease, it is the Christian article that is adding gay men that the articles they linked did not.

Did you read the BBC or Telegraph articles? If not, why not?

The articles mentioned the need to use condoms to prevent the spread of STD. Yes that is good advice and should be headed.

And nothing in the three articles presented any harm done to others by two women marrying or even two men marrying or a man and a woman living together unmarried. So none of those sins are so bad because they do not harm anyone else.
Worldwide statistics prove more women have HIV than men and are being infected primarily through heterosexual relationships.

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Every day, nearly 2,000 women are newly infected with HIV around the world.1

In sub-Saharan Africa where the epidemic has hit hardest, HIV is spread primarily through heterosexual sex, and women (during vaginal sex) are more likely to be infected than men.

HIV/AIDS is the leading cause of death for women of reproductive age (15-49) worldwide.
https://www.ipmglobal.org/women-hiv-aids

Facts have never interrupted jeff’s bigotry, however, nor his vicarious thrill of denying condoms to sexually active people. And another fact is that “red” states have higher teen pregnancies than other states.

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There's almost no getting around it. States with abstinence-only education have the highest rates of teen pregnancies.
https://www.mic.com/articles/98886/t...hing-in-common
 
Old 07-23-2019, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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And what is wrong with a grown daughter and her father loving each other intimately and sexually? Hey, it's all beautiful if it is love right? What's wrong with that?

Incest and homosexuality are nothing alike and therefore should not be treated the same way. Animals engage in homosexual behavior, but go out of their way to avoid incest. To impress upon you just how creepy it is, not even cockroaches do it, and they are just nasty. It's an instinct within all of us to avoid getting romantically or sexually involved with ones who are related to us. Anyone who knowingly does is going against their own nature and committing an immoral act. Homosexuality, on the other hand, is innate. When they have same sex relationships, they are not going against their own nature, no more so than someone picking out a certain shirt because it is in their favorite color. Homosexuality is not sinful, and is not an excuse for incest.


Also, this.
 
Old 07-23-2019, 04:42 PM
 
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Incest and homosexuality are nothing alike and therefore should not be treated the same way. Animals engage in homosexual behavior, but go out of their way to avoid incest. To impress upon you just how creepy it is, not even cockroaches do it, and they are just nasty. It's an instinct within all of us to avoid getting romantically or sexually involved with ones who are related to us. Anyone who knowingly does is going against their own nature and committing an immoral act. Homosexuality, on the other hand, is innate. When they have same sex relationships, they are not going against their own nature, no more so than someone picking out a certain shirt because it is in their favorite color. Homosexuality is not sinful, and is not an excuse for incest.


Also, this.
He has been told this countless times.

He has to stand behind his megachurch and what they tell him to believe.
 
Old 07-23-2019, 04:56 PM
 
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And what is wrong with a grown daughter and her father loving each other intimately and sexually? Hey, it's all beautiful if it is love right? What's wrong with that?
It's a different topic. Yes it is Bibical, Eve and her son's I assume, Lots and his daughters and I do n9t know whobelse.

If you wish t9 discuss incest, please bring up the definition and parameters you think should be discussed. Otherwise we are not discussing anything in specific. Are you speaking of a daughter who was raised by her father or one raised elsewhere? Marriage or not?

If you are against ssm then why not be against interfaith, interracial or interethnic marriages? They all are marrying someone that someone else thinks is a bad idea.

I never had an opinion about ssm until the subject was brought up and defined. Then I had some information to base my opinion upon. I agree with Paul Martin, it isn't a religious issue but a human rights issue and how can a person be against human rights.

If you wish to discuss father and daughter sexual relationships, start a new threat and put some parameters down and I will discuss it. Without knowing what you are talking about I have no opinions on the matter at this time.I d9 know that it is an attempt to sideline support for ssm
 
Old 07-23-2019, 05:34 PM
 
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The bible says nothing about having to be with ONE spouse, does it? Do I need to show that infographic again?
Other than God making one man, then giving him one wife. And Jesus seemed to support the notion of one man, one wife.

The Bible doesn't record God telling any man that it's a GOOD thing to take multiple wives, nor did he command any man to do so. But that's what men do--we take God's plans and we muck them up.
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