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Old 11-11-2015, 10:13 AM
 
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Good lord! What a nut case!

That man is the face of Fundamentalist Christianity. The Political and Religious arm of extremists showed themselves last weekend at that event.

When someone shows themselves to you. Believe it. What comes out of their mouths should be measured by that one moment saw their core.
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Old 11-11-2015, 10:49 AM
 
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As if you were privy to God's criteria because of your interpretation and assignment of authority to a book. What`IS obvious is that the criterion presented by Warden is consistent and reasonable, while the one you present is arbitrary and cruel.

I'm pretty sure we understand what you think of God.
No - I don't think you do - but whatever...

What any of us think, what our opinions are on this - really will not matter.
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Old 11-11-2015, 12:05 PM
 
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Yeah, but as a gay man, who knows I don't choose which sex I'm capable of falling in love with, I (nor does my church) consider being gay a sin. IMO, all the anti-gay churches are using religion to support the dislike/hatred of gay people they already had. Demonizing your fellow humans and attempting to make life miserable for them... now THAT's sin!
AMEN! and the people were of one accord and those with understanding and truth agree..
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Old 11-11-2015, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Interesting that you agree with all of the other mentioned sins... except this one. At this point, you kick God out of His role, and you took over. Now it's your criteria that matters - not God's.

Whose understanding are you going to lean upon, yours or His? Who said the effects of our actions on our neighbors are the criteria for defining what sin is?
Not so at all. And on the other hand it is not surprising that you fail to understand the role that cultural views play in determining what is meant by scripture. All six of your clobber verses have alternate interpretations. As I've stated before, your preoccupation with "sin" leads you to select the one that condemns people for no reason at all. Mine chooses to accept people who are "different" because that is the example Jesus gave us with His own words and actions.

IMO, you choose the low road instead of the high road. That's what happens when one is interested in seeing "judgment" against those unlike themselves as the church has been prone to do for centuries. Whereas love and acceptance are the hallmarks of a Christ follower.

Recognizing that so many who call themselves christian follow the road of judgment and punishment rather than love and acceptance is why I believe Jesus said "the way is narrow that leads to life, and few there are who find it." That judgment and punishment idea is exactly what the Pharisees practiced. It disgusted Jesus.

And Jesus was the one who told us in a Samaritan how our ACTIONS define who we really are and who is acceptable to God. Read the story of the Good Samaritan keeping in mind that Jews saw Samaritans as you see homosexuals.
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Old 11-11-2015, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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No - I don't think you do - but whatever...

What any of us think, what our opinions are on this - really will not matter.
The difference between Nateswift and yourself is that Nateswift chooses an interpretation that is accepting and loving--a trait of Jesus. You choose to be judgmental and condemning--a trait of the Pharisees.

How did Jesus speak about US being judgmental?

Any mistakes a child of God makes are going to be on the side of grace and mercy--not judgment and punishment.
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Old 11-13-2015, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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And Jesus was the one who told us in a Samaritan how our ACTIONS define who we really are and who is acceptable to God. Read the story of the Good Samaritan keeping in mind that Jews saw Samaritans as you see homosexuals.
The whole post is, but THIS point NEEDS repeating.
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Old 11-13-2015, 05:09 PM
 
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The difference between Nateswift and yourself is that Nateswift chooses an interpretation that is accepting and loving--a trait of Jesus. You choose to be judgmental and condemning--a trait of the Pharisees.

How did Jesus speak about US being judgmental?

Any mistakes a child of God makes are going to be on the side of grace and mercy--not judgment and punishment.
So, should we not read the Book of Revelation?
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Old 11-13-2015, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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So, should we not read the Book of Revelation?
No
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Old 11-13-2015, 05:16 PM
 
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So, should we not read the Book of Revelation?
It would be a good idea not to because it is incomprehensible and more likely to confuse than edify.
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Old 11-13-2015, 05:34 PM
 
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FLASH_ NO heterosexual gene has eve been found, that is pseudo science to say one is born hetero. NO ONE has ever found the reason because there are NO REASONS, it is simply something that one is BORN as...`

Here is THE web site--

Are straight people normal?
Proof there are no genes either way. If the species is to continue people are born straight to reproduce. That is evolution. Sometimes things go wrong and disabilities happen.
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