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Old 10-29-2015, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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It comes from the Spirit that dwells within, and good breeding.
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Old 10-29-2015, 08:57 PM
 
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Even the OT believers understood this.... with such statements like he's an ever present help in times of trouble. So laugh as much as you want and carry on promoting the separation that if the truth is known you believe yourself to be until you meet Jesus one day lol.
I am no longer separated from God. I have been born again. Have you?

On the other hand, those who have not remain under condemnation (separation) and will not see God (John 3).
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Old 10-30-2015, 12:05 AM
 
Location: NC
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Yes, I believe that we are all worthy of love because we are creatures of God and God is love. All are valuable to Him, even those who are lost and who are rebellious now. I believe that each vessel has a part to play in His plan and will eventually show the glory of love. God bless.
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Old 10-30-2015, 12:14 AM
 
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Thank you all for the wonderful additions to this discussion. I know that most of you all know where I stand on this question of "are we worthy of love". I am not sure why some people love more than others.... I will likely never understand why that is. To love deeply is both a wonderful thing and at times a painful thing, I do know that. To allow your heart to be softened makes you vulnerable to more suffering.
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Old 10-30-2015, 12:16 AM
 
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I am no longer separated from God. I have been born again. Have you?

On the other hand, those who have not remain under condemnation (separation) and will not see God (John 3).
No one is under condemnation except the son of perdition. There are two sons bound up together in Adam and his offspring.

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Old 10-30-2015, 03:52 AM
 
Location: New England
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I am no longer separated from God. I have been born again. Have you?

On the other hand, those who have not remain under condemnation (separation) and will not see God (John 3).
Again a mis interpretation of the verse and a lack of understanding what wrath and condemnation are. Unbelief which the scripture calls sin..... separates you not literally but consciously from the reality that is you are not separated, in other words you just think you are, so you live a life by something other than from the knowledge of oneness with God and you fall short(and miss the mark) of the glory of God which we are. Condemnation(self) only exists in those who are believing they are separated from God.
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Old 10-30-2015, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Florida
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No one is under condemnation except the son of perdition. There are two sons bound up together in Adam and his offspring.
"Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son"
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Old 10-30-2015, 10:24 AM
 
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Love is the greatest virtue; it's free from bias or any injustice.
His countenance bore the love of God, not the sins of men.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIucRL4iQTI

All I've got to say is that that video was just about the sweetest, most touching thing I have ever seen in my life!!!
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Old 10-30-2015, 11:28 AM
 
Location: New England
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"Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son"
Those who don't believe are not condemned too.....some just feel that they are, and it doesn't help any you fundamentalists telling the vulnerable that they are. Tell them the truth that God is not holding anything against them, so return unto him.
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Old 11-01-2015, 01:00 PM
 
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Even the condemned are loved by God because God loves His enemies. Condemnation does not put hamper or change the love of God. Being condemned to death or prison does not negate the love of God who is described as love. God bless.
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