How do you define 'love' (Christ, Isaiah, sex, faith)
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Have you flooded a whole planet, got a young girl pregnant and had her child die a terrible death, just to name a couple of the nasty deity's alleged crimes?
Just remember the word "alleged" because it is the real problem. As you have remarked elsewhere, men have ascribed human weaknesses and foibles to God and made Him in THEIR image. This is revealed clearly in their interpretation of righteousness as the primary character of God instead of agape love.
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Originally Posted by Choir Loft
The Biblical emphasis of God's character is righteousness, not love.
QED. Every evil perpetrated by men and ascribed to God can be attributed to this nonsense of righteousness instead of agape love.
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Originally Posted by TroutDude
Love is caring more about another's well-being than one's own.
Amen, but agape is more encompassing than that, Trout.
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Originally Posted by pcamps
Trout, I agree ........ Yet I believe to love someone that way, you know you are loved yourself and love yourself. We can't give what we haven't got... Silver and gold have I not, but what I do have I give you.
Amen. Excellent point. We cannot give what we do not have.
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Originally Posted by nateswift
You make the common mistake of lumping the history of a growing awareness of the nature of God in one ethnic group with the revelation and demonstration of that nature in the life and teachings of Jesus. You may also make the common mistake of thinking that the legendary elements of the New Testament are essential to a realization and practice of community with the God Jesus revealed. "Love." as He used it is a vested interest in the well-being of everyone in any particular situation. Circumstances are far less relevant than how they are dealt with. Personal or spiritual growth is the aim.
Outstanding explanation, nate. Agape love is what is meant and its characteristics (fruits) are described in 1 Cor 13, the Sermon on the Mount, etc.
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Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28
So the theory is we cannot love outside of God? Does love not exists regardless of our knowledge of God?
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Originally Posted by Pleroo
That's what you got out of what he said?
If God IS love, than when we love or are loved, God is manifested, regardless of what we think we know about God.
Amen, Pleroo! It is important, zthaltzman, to be careful to recognize that our "knowledge" is NOT the deciding factor. When we actually love (agape), we are "born of God" and know God because God IS love. Try to understand what the word "IS" really implies.
If any of that actually happened, which is highly unlikely, it just displays the deity's depravity!
As I thought. You haven't even taken the time to read those passages. You just mimic some atheist website. You can't be taken seriously here. You're just a flamethrower.
As I thought. You haven't even taken the time to read those passages. You just mimic some atheist website. You can't be taken seriously here. You're just a flamethrower.
I have read the Bible from cover to cover many times and my opinion of the evil deity hasn't changed!
Just remember the word "alleged" because it is the real problem. As you have remarked elsewhere, men have ascribed human weaknesses and foibles to God and made Him in THEIR image. This is revealed clearly in their interpretation of righteousness as the primary character of God instead of agape love.
QED. Every evil perpetrated by men and ascribed to God can be attributed to this nonsense of righteousness instead of agape love.
Amen, but agape is more encompassing than that, Trout.
Amen. Excellent point. We cannot give what we do not have.
Outstanding explanation, nate. Agape love is what is meant and its characteristics (fruits) are described in 1 Cor 13, the Sermon on the Mount, etc.
Amen, Pleroo!It is important, zthaltzman, to be careful to recognize that our "knowledge" is NOT the deciding factor. When we actually love (agape), we are "born of God" and know God because God IS love. Try to understand what the word "IS" really implies.
Wasn't that clearly the point I made?
That academic KNOWLEDGE of God does NOT allow us to LOVE any more than a LACK OF academic KNOWLEDGE of God denies us the ability to love.
I have read the Bible from cover to cover many times and my opinion of the evil deity hasn't changed!
Why did God send a worldwide flood?
Why did God send His son to die?
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It is important, zthaltzman, to be careful to recognize that our "knowledge" is NOT the deciding factor. When we actually love (agape), we are "born of God" and know God because God IS love. Try to understand what the word "IS" really implies.
