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Old 01-21-2016, 09:54 AM
 
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My question is:

1) Once this child grows up, are there any religions (Christian or otherwise) that won't allow a marriage with people who have not been baptized?


2) Also, other than having a child baptized for personal religious reasons that are obvious, is there any other reason they SHOULD have this child baptized?

Sorry if I sound ignorant, but I just don't know.
A1: I'm sure somewhere there is ... probably though not Christian.

A2: absolutely, babies need a savior.
Jesus taught original sin just as it was taught in the OT.
"Flesh gives birth to flesh" John 3:6
"Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me." Psalm 51:5

As it is written:
“There is no one righteous, not even one;" Romans 3:10
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Jesus taught:
"but the Spirit gives birth to spirit." John 3:6

"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit," Matthew 28:19
babies are no less a part of "all nations"

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God taught infants do believe and that baptism saves and how it does:
"From birth I was cast on you; from my mother’s womb you have been my God." Psalm 22:10

"this water (the water that saved Noah) symbolizes baptism that now saves you also
not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God.
It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ" 1 Peter 3:21


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Old 01-21-2016, 09:57 AM
 
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Thanks for your answer but I don't see that my questions were answered, or if they were I don't understand what you said.

Without quotes or history, IS there a LEGAL reason a child must be baptized before marriage when he/she grows up?
The only possible reason one could suggest it should be done LEGALLY is that the baptismal certificate could be accepted as a means of identification, similar to a birth certificate. It's typically something most people don't lie about. Of course, that was something I had heard 20 years ago...and times have changed, so it may not be a valid point anymore.

Honestly? My own kids waited until they were old enough to choose for themselves. I had the honor of baptizing them myself when they were in 5th and 3rd grades. I was a pastoral intern at my church, as I was in my last semester of Seminary.
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Old 01-21-2016, 09:57 AM
 
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Actually, I believe most RCC apologists would tell you that if you're baptized in a non-Catholic church, they would recognize it. But they'd still need to go through RCIA, which is to become a member.
After RCIA the convert is baptized as a Catholic. Which is traditionally done during the Easter Vigil.
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Old 01-21-2016, 09:58 AM
 
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After RCIA the convert is baptized as a Catholic.
I know I've heard Jimmy Aiken (sp?) say that protestant baptism, if done correctly in the Trinitarian formula, is recognized. I could be mistaken, I guess.
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Old 01-21-2016, 10:01 AM
 
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I know I've heard Jimmy Aiken (sp?) .
Never heard of him.
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Old 01-21-2016, 10:03 AM
 
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Never heard of him.
He's one of the apologists on EWTN radio. I used to listen to him a lot on my drive home. He would host a call-in Q & A show. I just enjoy learning about religion, and so I'd listen.
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Old 01-21-2016, 10:13 AM
 
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Some of you are confusing marriage and conversion.

The RCC does not require both partners to be confirmed Catholics in order to marry. I have seen many interdenominational marriages performed in Catholic Churches by a Catholic priest. My Catholic sister married a Baptist in our home parish church by our priest. She remains Catholic and he remains Baptist. They attend 2 services every week.

Now, if a person outside of the Catholic Church decideds to convert, then they will be confirmed through the process of RCIA (Rite of Christian Iniciation for Adults.) Usually, the RCC will accept any Christian baptism to enter the program. However, if a person was never baptised, they will hold a private baptism at the beginning of the program. Usually a sprinkling of holy water will do the trick.
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Old 01-21-2016, 10:28 AM
 
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The RCC does not require both partners to be confirmed Catholics in order to marry. I have seen many interdenominational marriages performed in Catholic Churches by a Catholic priest. My Catholic sister married a Baptist in our home parish church by our priest.
Interesting. Two questions:

Was Mass celebrated at these weddings? Did your sister receive permission from the Bishop? (That's how it used to work. A higher-up had to give the OK for a priest to marry a Catholic and a non-Catholic.) One more: Did they promise to raise any children as Catholics? (Which was another "thing" that had to be agreed to.)
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Old 01-21-2016, 10:28 AM
 
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After RCIA the convert is baptized as a Catholic. Which is traditionally done during the Easter Vigil.

well, I think yes and no---someone who was never baptized at all would indeed be baptized after RCIA and indeed usually at the Easter Vigil. OTOH, most other Christians IF they had already been baptized would NOT normally be re-baptized but instead might be chrismated/confirmed as part of a "renewal" of the baptismal vows they make at their reception into the Catholic Church. in some cases, if there was no reliable evidence like a baptismal certificate or other record of a baptism (adult or infant) being made and there was a valid question a "conditional" baptism might be made to make sure that this very important sacrament of initiation and incorporation into the "Body of Christ" is administered.


Catholics accept most all other Christian baptisms as valid (except perhaps those baptisms which when made deliberately exclude the "Trinitarian" formula)
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Old 01-21-2016, 10:35 AM
 
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well, I think yes and no---someone who was never baptized at all would indeed be baptized after RCIA and indeed usually at the Easter Vigil. OTOH, most other Christians IF they had already been baptized would NOT normally be re-baptized but instead might be chrismated/confirmed as part of a "renewal" of the baptismal vows they make at their reception into the Catholic Church. in some cases, if there was no reliable evidence like a baptismal certificate or other record of a baptism (adult or infant) being made and there was a valid question a "conditional" baptism might be made to make sure that this very important sacrament of initiation and incorporation into the "Body of Christ" is administered.


Catholics accept most all other Christian baptisms as valid (except perhaps those baptisms which when made deliberately exclude the "Trinitarian" formula)
Thinking about it.... you are correct. I had a slight brain glitch there. Thanks for expounding on that.
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