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Old 06-01-2016, 03:10 PM
 
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I have come this far with God that is true. He has also given me an education in the Bible to reject such things as universal salvation and keep from things that are not true. Way too many things don't add up with this doctrine. I only have one piece of advice. If you end up being wrong I would not recommend spiting in God's face...ever.
Why would God tell you to reject that which He has given His word that He will do?

So, let's see, hmm, God says He will have all mankind to be saved because Christ ransomed all (1 Timothy 2:4-6) but God tells you: Don't believe Me! I was wrong about that! Sorry. Hey, even I (God) can be wrong every now and then.
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Old 06-01-2016, 03:31 PM
 
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Why would God tell you to reject that which He has given His word that He will do?

So, let's see, hmm, God says He will have all mankind to be saved because Christ ransomed all (1 Timothy 2:4-6) but God tells you: Don't believe Me! I was wrong about that! Sorry. Hey, even I (God) can be wrong every now and then.
I do not believe your interpretation of 1 Timothy 2:4-6 to be accurate and I don't believe you speak as the interpreter of God. Using eisegesis you have taken a sentence and made a doctrine out of it. It's the same thing people did with Hellfire. Which isn't true either but their doctrine puts blinders on them not allowing any other scripture to be seen, same as your doctrine. I have no problems with 1 Tim 2:4-6. I know that the Most High wants all men to be saved but that doesn't mean they will be saved. The rest of the Bible doesn't support all will be saved. 2 Peter 3:9 explains 1 Tim 2:4-6. I trust the Bible as my interpreter.

There's a lot more Bible scriptures that I have seen you ignore over and over. I see no need to post them again.
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Old 06-01-2016, 03:36 PM
 
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I do not believe your interpretation of 1 Timothy 2:4-6 to be accurate and I don't believe you speak as the interpreter of God. Using eisegesis you have taken a sentence and made a doctrine out of it. It's the same thing people did with Hellfire. Which isn't true either but their doctrine puts blinders on them not allowing any other scripture to be seen, same as your doctrine.

There's a lot more Bible scriptures that I have seen you ignore over and over. I see no need to post them again.

There is no interpretation needed for 1 Timothy 2:4-6. It just needs to be believed.

So you think even though 1 Timothy 2:4 says "God will have all mankind to be saved" you actually believe it says "God won't have all mankind to be saved"? It is either one way or the other.
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Old 06-01-2016, 03:39 PM
 
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There is no interpretation needed for 1 Timothy 2:4-6. It just needs to be believed.

So you think even though 1 Timothy 2:4 says "God will have all mankind to be saved" you actually believe it says "God won't have all mankind to be saved"? It is either one way or the other.
2 Peter 3:9 explains 1 Tim 2:4-6
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Old 06-01-2016, 03:47 PM
 
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Your post proves you are sinning and corrupted.
You do need saved from sin and death even if you think otherwise.

Once you put on immortality, you will understand it all much better. No body parts needed.
You can tell all that from a post? hahahahhahahaha wrong. I do not sin. I have no wish for immortality.
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Old 06-01-2016, 03:53 PM
 
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2 Peter 3:9 explains 1 Tim 2:4-6
Not really. 1 Timothy 2:4-6 explains 2 Peter 3:9.
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Old 06-01-2016, 03:54 PM
 
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You can tell all that from a post? hahahahhahahaha wrong. I do not sin. I have no wish for immortality.
You just sinned.
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Old 06-01-2016, 04:23 PM
 
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Not really. 1 Timothy 2:4-6 explains 2 Peter 3:9.
Nope.
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Old 06-01-2016, 04:43 PM
 
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Nope.
Actually 2 Peter 3:9 must be taken in the light of 1 Timothy 2:4-6.

You see, you really just don't believe God concerning this matter. 2 Peter 3:9 does not say the majority of mankind will go to hell. Nor does 2 Peter 3:9 inform us that God will not save all mankind.

Furthermore, you are taking 2 Peter 3:9 and applying it to every human who ever lived. But Peter only wrote his epistle to the dispersed Jewish believers and God was not wanting any of THEM to perish.

Not only that but "perish" never has the idea of unendingness to it. In fact, Christ said He came to seek and save the perished sheep of the House of Israel.
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Old 06-01-2016, 06:54 PM
 
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You just sinned.

No. I do not sin. Not sinning is not a sin.

You on the other hand sin all the time. You are an admitted sinner. It comes easy to you, because you sin all the time. Sin comes easy to you.
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