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Old 06-04-2016, 09:55 PM
 
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Acts 5

[1] But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
[2] And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
[3] But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
[4] Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
[5] And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
[6] And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.
[7] And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
[8] And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
[9] Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
[10] Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
[11] And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.

The Holy Spirit killed this man and his wife to keep the Church clean and holy. It wasn't just the Old Testament that was tough on sin. Over the years, however, the Church has allowed sin back in. Jesus must be really grieved. Sin comes from a lack of love for his/her Master. Jesus said:

John 14

[21] He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
[22] Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
[23] Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
[24] He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
[25] These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
How does this prove anything?...
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Old 06-04-2016, 09:57 PM
 
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Isn't it odd that the apostles would know so much about the financial matters of their members.

Hmm.
Cult?...
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Old 06-04-2016, 11:36 PM
 
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Cult?...
Extortion.
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Old 06-05-2016, 06:14 AM
 
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^^ Op's question??

As to Proof?? Nope~ It's so typical that someone wishes to take a few chosen scriptures by whomever thousands of years ago..and somehow suggest Sin is and forever more be Death ..then of course means in their minds..Directly to He$$

I then ask..Why so many humans on this earth who commit heinous crimes against innocents..Don't get stricken down immediately?? Latest proven case is Hastert..who molested young men..then went on to become Speaker of the House..then made huge amounts of money ( talents was the currency way back then)..and still is alive and well...tho in his later years will be in jail, once society finally decided to accept it

So for anyone living in the 21st Century wishes to go back to the 1st Century, and live under such narrow ( myopic/my word for the day ) then go back to the founding of biblical lands and live by their rules!!

Such a ridiculous hypotheses

No living human being EVER escapes death...WHY?? because all sin in some form or other..whether its thru thoughts, deeds or intentions. So BEST advice would be prepare for Judgement day in a MUCH HIGHER COURT. Ya either walk the talk or talk the walk..either way..you will eventually have to answer for ALL!!
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Old 06-05-2016, 06:16 AM
 
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Acts 5

[1] But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
[2] And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
[3] But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
[4] Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
[5] And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
[6] And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.
[7] And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
[8] And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
[9] Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
[10] Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
[11] And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.

The Holy Spirit killed this man and his wife to keep the Church clean and holy. It wasn't just the Old Testament that was tough on sin. Over the years, however, the Church has allowed sin back in. Jesus must be really grieved. Sin comes from a lack of love for his/her Master. Jesus said:

John 14

[21] He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
[22] Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
[23] Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
[24] He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
[25] These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.

Paul said differently in ACTS 17.
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Old 06-05-2016, 06:32 AM
 
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How does this prove anything?...
To the everybody-is-a-sinner crowd and God-is-only-love crowd, I suppose this account is not expounded upon in their churches. Despite what you and others say, God comes down on sin, as it is written.
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Old 06-05-2016, 06:46 AM
 
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Oh my God. Do you ever shut up,about sin ?
God doesn't shut up about sin, the Holy Spirit doesn't shut up about sin, why should we?

And why does it offend you so much?

John 16:8-11 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

Don't sear your conscience when it comes to sin, it's Gods tool to brings sinners to Christ and to keep saints humble and dependant on Him. The only one who will wanna use it to destroy us is satan, but God uses it to put His grace and love on display for such wretches as we are.
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Old 06-05-2016, 06:51 AM
 
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Somebody made up that story and it became an Early Christian Urban Legend.
You have neither lot nor part in this matter, as your heart is set upon tearing down the Bible truth.
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Old 06-05-2016, 06:52 AM
 
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You have neither lot nor part in this matter, as your heart is set upon tearing down the Bible truth.
The bible has truth? Or does it have inspiration? you do know the difference, right?
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:08 AM
 
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The bible has truth? Or does it have inspiration? you do know the difference, right?
Why do you continually seek to tear the Bible down? Obviously, it's a mission of yours. At least atheists are honest about their disdain for the Bible. So, as I said to mightyqueen, you have neither lot nor part in this matter. This may be an open forum, but it doesn't pertain to you, as your words are hollow to those who believe.
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