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Old 07-15-2016, 08:14 PM
 
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Spring and fall.
All four seasons.
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Old 07-16-2016, 12:49 PM
 
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No, It turned to Gentiles in Ephraim, not gentiles.


If you are a Gentile it turned to then you are a gentile who came repenting back to Judah, back to respect of the Torah.


The Scriptures Paul quotes about the gentiles is from Hosea,'' Those who were not his people became the sons of the living God.''


The promise to those ten lost tribes of Gentiles is that they are wed into Judah, and they have the same religion as Judah has or they do not fall under the promise of Ephraim, and unless a gentile comes under the promise of Ephraim, then he is just a gentile making a claim. Ephraim's return is greatly detailed when he comes back repenting because he left God's worship system, and he comes back to become one with Judah.


Gentiles have a promise only if they do not remain gentiles, they have to return as Ephraim MUST.



The Israelites have been cut off--Matt 23:37-39-- to this day they do not accept Jesus as being the one sent forth by God. A new religion began.
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Old 07-16-2016, 01:41 PM
 
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The Israelites have been cut off--Matt 23:37-39-- to this day they do not accept Jesus as being the one sent forth by God. A new religion began.


Gentiles converted to the religion of Jesus, you think that still applies after the gentiles left the religion of God 100 years after Jesus died?


All we have done is exactly what the Northern of Kingdom did, they changed their Holy city, they changed their Sabbaths and feasts and God turned them into gentiles,'' Not his people.''


Jesus came with a promised betrothal for those lost gentiles of Ephraim and they certainly came in, they converted to Judaism and Christianity was a legal sect of Judaism for over 100 years.


You put your shoes back with those first converts and do what they did, and you become Ephraim simply because you reject the ways of other Gods and you convert to the religion of God.


You really think Jesus came teaching people to accept Pagan Sabbaths, holy days, traditions and rituals?






The Christianity today doesn't look anything like those first converts and it isn't.


There is only a covenant for Ephraim and Judah and you are only Ephraim if you return to Judah.


You can't stand from Babylon and all your worship system to then claim it is God's worship system, it is not, and Christianity left that covenant long ago.
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Old 07-16-2016, 03:02 PM
 
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The Israelites have been cut off--Matt 23:37-39-- to this day they do not accept Jesus as being the one sent forth by God. A new religion began.
Yup...A new religion began...But not the religion of the One True G-d...A false religion that a majority of the world holds to...
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Old 07-16-2016, 03:05 PM
 
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Gentiles converted to the religion of Jesus, you think that still applies after the gentiles left the religion of God 100 years after Jesus died?


All we have done is exactly what the Northern of Kingdom did, they changed their Holy city, they changed their Sabbaths and feasts and God turned them into gentiles,'' Not his people.''


Jesus came with a promised betrothal for those lost gentiles of Ephraim and they certainly came in, they converted to Judaism and Christianity was a legal sect of Judaism for over 100 years.


You put your shoes back with those first converts and do what they did, and you become Ephraim simply because you reject the ways of other Gods and you convert to the religion of God.


You really think Jesus came teaching people to accept Pagan Sabbaths, holy days, traditions and rituals?






The Christianity today doesn't look anything like those first converts and it isn't.


There is only a covenant for Ephraim and Judah and you are only Ephraim if you return to Judah.


You can't stand from Babylon and all your worship system to then claim it is God's worship system, it is not, and Christianity left that covenant long ago.
Basically the Christian sect was Reform Judaism...
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Old 07-16-2016, 03:31 PM
 
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Yup...A new religion began...But not the religion of the One True G-d...A false religion that a majority of the world holds to...
From Daniel 7:2, the origin of the beasts,

. . . And behold the four winds of heaven strove upon the great sea. And four great beasts, different one from another, came up out of the sea.

Thus, the origin of the beasts is heaven, a logical source of religious beliefs.

From Daniel 7:4,
. . . The first was like a lioness and had the wings of an eagle: I beheld till her wings were plucked off and she was lifted up from the earth, and stood upon her feet as a man, and the heart of a man was given to her.


This would be a reference to Judaism (the lion of Juda) from whom the wings of eternity were plucked and the heart of Jesus was given to her in crucifixion. I would pay particular attention to the wings being plucked off, Richard. It should trouble you.
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Old 07-16-2016, 04:15 PM
 
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Basically the Christian sect was Reform Judaism...
That's just how I would have put it.


Wonder what would have happened if those gentiles remained being brave? It's completely understandable what happened because those were dangerous days and Rome hated Jews, their hate for a gentile who kept Jewish tradition was way worse than their hate of a Jew.


I would like to say that I would be that brave to have stuck, but to know that I was going to have to watch my family die first, I might just have folded. Those gentiles who clung to the Jewish feasts were hated above anyone. Your family might be used as torches to light a garden.
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Old 07-17-2016, 04:16 PM
 
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Basically the Christian sect was Reform Judaism...

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Old 07-17-2016, 05:45 PM
 
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Gentiles converted to the religion of Jesus, you think that still applies after the gentiles left the religion of God 100 years after Jesus died?


All we have done is exactly what the Northern of Kingdom did, they changed their Holy city, they changed their Sabbaths and feasts and God turned them into gentiles,'' Not his people.''


Jesus came with a promised betrothal for those lost gentiles of Ephraim and they certainly came in, they converted to Judaism and Christianity was a legal sect of Judaism for over 100 years.


You put your shoes back with those first converts and do what they did, and you become Ephraim simply because you reject the ways of other Gods and you convert to the religion of God.


You really think Jesus came teaching people to accept Pagan Sabbaths, holy days, traditions and rituals?






The Christianity today doesn't look anything like those first converts and it isn't.


There is only a covenant for Ephraim and Judah and you are only Ephraim if you return to Judah.


You can't stand from Babylon and all your worship system to then claim it is God's worship system, it is not, and Christianity left that covenant long ago.



No the truth Jesus brought was hated by the majority because it exposed the 4 things you mentioned and they didn't like it. And their false god worship as well.




Yes, it was foretold--the great apostasy-2Thess 2:3 came first--The religion Jesus began, died along with the apostles then the followers were thrown to hungry wild animals as a public display--at best a few remained underground. Then it fell apart.
People wont believe me when I show them in the bible what Gods religion is not--Mark 3:24-26--a house divided( 33,000) trinity based religions) will not stand. They actually are taught to believe that the God of love, whom Jesus is the exact image of would make them suffer eternally in eternal hellfire, for 70-90 years of unrepented sin. Gods justice scales are in perfect balance-- an eye for an eye uncorruptable. And that Jesus would approve of having a torture, death device as the front of his real religion.
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Old 07-17-2016, 06:00 PM
 
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Yup...A new religion began...But not the religion of the One True G-d...A false religion that a majority of the world holds to...




This rose up in place of the religion, Jesus began--2Thess 2:3--the great apostasy. Which has turned into--Mark 3:24-26-- A house divided( 33,000 trinity religions) will not stand--they wont believe it. When in reality, to all of creation looks like a mass of confusion--it is.
Not until these last days, truth is now abundant. Dan 12:4


Yes the religion of the one true God-YHWH(Jehovah) The Father- John 4:22-24. But as well accept Jesus as the one sent forth from God. The ransom sacrifice . Jesus bought back what Adam had lost for mankind. It had to be that way because YHWH(Jehovah) -- All his ways are justice.-Deut 32:4
A sinless mortal--rebelled and sinned, bringing sin to all-- Gods justice scales-- A sinless mortal lived sinless but paid the wages of sin that he did not owe--the ransom sacrifice. Now when the day and hour are right, Gods kingdom is coming. The door remains open. But for how long. World conditions are very seriously going downhill quickly.
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