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Originally Posted by pcamps
Both of those verses are far more profound than what bible fundamentalists have interpreted them to be. It was all about God getting man to see him in the reality of who he really is, he took away the veil from over our minds by removing that we thought alienated us from God...... Our sin. It was never about sin..... It's always been about the true reality of God.
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One of you problem is that you don't have a clue about what fundamentalism is. Neither of those verses is abut getting us to see the reality of who Jesus is. Both are about seeing the reality of what Jesus did for us. Only fundamentalist understand those verses,
Only fundies understand? How was your Paulie able to understand when he had NO knowledge of Christ other than to persecute the disciples? Yet PAULIE was able to understand Christ speaking??
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Originally Posted by pcamps
God made it about righteousness..... His son
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He did not. He made it about faith in Jesus and accepting His righteousness.
HUH? Did the fundie just say the same thing???
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Fundamentalists made it about sin...... The flesh.
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No we didn't, you have. Again we made it about faith because without faith we can't pleas God.
THIS IS WHAT GOD REQUIRES---MERCY, JUSTICE and walk HUMBLY---MICAH makes no mention of FAITH.
What "pleases" the God I know is when we look after the least of us, and recognize our shortcomings by correcting what we have done when we do wrong to others and when we acknowledge we are LOVED.
You are half right. How do you know the Bible is spunk? Let me guess; you reject anything in it that refutes your own personal theology.
No they can't. In fact you rejecting the Bible as God's inspired word and making up you own theology keeps you from knowing the truth, the whole truth and nothing bu the truth.
To make you think is the point. Think about this. Christianity is more than about MERCY, LOVE AND JUSTICE.
The main subject of the Bible is the person and work of Jesus.
What you do not realize is you reject most of the scriptures in favor of your briefs,biases and prejudices that you think are contained in the scriptures. You fundies are the big deniers of the scripture, bogged down in the cesspool of beliefs, biases and prejudices that you think are in the scriptures, but when examined they are either completely out of context or not to be found in the scriptures
Yes, Christianity is about love, mercy and Justice( not fundy justice by the way), all 3 of these are conditional in the fundy world that pressures folk into believing they are sinners to be beneficiaries of their beliefs, biases and prejudices that they think are contained in the scriptures
The main subject of the Bible is Jesus Christ representing the true reality of all that God is. After all the most important thing is to know God and who he is, and Jesus Christ did an A1 job of that for us all, and he's nothing like the fundy god.
The whole truth is Jesus Christ, not your beliefs, biases and prejudices.
One of you problem is that you don't have a clue about what fundamentalism is. Neither of those verses is abut getting us to see the reality of who Jesus is. Both are about seeing the reality of what Jesus did for us. Only fundamentalist understand those verses,
He did not. He made it about faith in Jesus and accepting His righteousness.
No we didn't, you have. Again we made it about faith because without faith we can't pleas God.
The whole bible which you clearly do not understand is about the revealing of God through a man called Jesus. Why ?, because we became so far alienated from him in our unbelief, biases and prejudices, we came to a point where we had no idea about God whatsoever. So the great purpose of God is making himself known to man and leaving him in no doubt who he is firstly through Jesus Christ then through those who believe him, but we all know that that failed miserably, when the church very quickly became an apostate church and drew the attention away from the righteousness of God who is Jesus Christ to sin and especially the sin of everyone but its own.
Only fundies understand? How was your Paulie able to understand when he had NO knowledge of Christ other than to persecute the disciples? Yet PAULIE was able to understand Christ speaking??
HUH? Did the fundie just say the same thing???
THIS IS WHAT GOD REQUIRES---MERCY, JUSTICE and walk HUMBLY---MICAH makes no mention of FAITH.
What "pleases" the God I know is when we look after the least of us, and recognize our shortcomings by correcting what we have done when we do wrong to others and when we acknowledge we are LOVED.
Jimmie, jimme, jimmie-john--- will you not listen to the words of Christ----"..., you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. Look, your house is left to you desolate. For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.'"
Without the Bible, Jesus (hay-zeus) would just be a guy doing some yard work for you.
Now you MOCK the name of JESUS!!
Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28 View Post
Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28 View Post
What chapter and verse says WE MUST HAVE THE BIBLE IF WE ARE TO UNDERSTAND??
Jesus did NOT die for the sins of humanity--the bible says NO ONE CAN DIE or BE PUNISHED FOR THE SINS OF ANOTHER.
One does not need the myths of the bible to know and understand what MERCY, JUSTICE and LOVE are...
ACCESS that "C" word and life will be so much better..
Jimmie, jimme, jimmie-john--- will you not listen to the words of Christ----"..., you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. Look, your house is left to you desolate. For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.'"
Didn't you get that from the Bible, which you call a book of myths?
Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28 View Post
Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28 View Post
What chapter and verse says WE MUST HAVE THE BIBLE IF WE ARE TO UNDERSTAND??
Jesus did NOT die for the sins of humanity--the bible says NO ONE CAN DIE or BE PUNISHED FOR THE SINS OF ANOTHER.
One does not need the myths of the bible to know and understand what MERCY, JUSTICE and LOVE are...
ACCESS that "C" word and life will be so much better..
Jesus, who you found out about by reading the Bible.
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