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Old 10-21-2016, 10:40 AM
 
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Jesus has told us two things that apply.

1. Satan is the ruelr of thsi world and that emans all nations
2. We are to be no part of the world, thus avoid politics or we are poart of Satan's world.
Romans 13:1-7 ESV

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. ...



Who's confused you or the Bible?
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Old 10-21-2016, 02:24 PM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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Anarchists do not resist authorities, so don't kid yourself. Anarchy is not Chaos.
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Old 10-21-2016, 02:31 PM
 
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Anarchists do not resist authorities, so don't kid yourself. Anarchy is not Chaos.
Don't fool yourself.
If you want to fight..take up the true armor.
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Old 10-21-2016, 02:33 PM
 
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Don't fool yourself.
If you want to fight..take up the true armor.
strikes me as a different subject; either that, or confirmation of Anarchy.
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Old 10-23-2016, 05:34 PM
 
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Don't fool yourself.
If you want to fight..take up the true armor.
well?
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Old 10-23-2016, 05:57 PM
 
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Romans 13:1-7 ESV

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. ...



Who's confused you or the Bible?
That says to be in subjection not to participate in elections, which are voluntary.

You do know subjection is not involved in voting? No resistance in not voting.

Peter set the standard when he said "We must obey God as ruler rather than man". Man is ruled by Satan and God has allowed the Governments to exist to prove that Satan lied when he said man could rule himself with out God. Remember the first form of Government was a Theocracy/rule by God, the second was Democracy rule by man/Adam and Eve. We obey where it does not conflict with God's will.
A Christians allegiance and loyalty is to God's kingdom, not to any man's Kingdom. Can't seve two masters.
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Old 10-23-2016, 05:59 PM
 
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nice. repped out
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Old 10-29-2016, 06:54 PM
 
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It seems Christians and religious need to shut up and sit down? Is that what our country is coming to----religious have no say? Very scary.
when in any one age or time wasn't that the message? .... men like their sins and they like to kill their god and kings... should anyone have ever expected anything differently? our constitution knew that about meankind . oh but we did take it for granted for about 40 years or so . not any longer right? the message from the sons of hell has always been the same one. our way or die! it is the same old war the same old way.
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Old 10-29-2016, 06:59 PM
 
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when in any one age or time wasn't that the message? .... men like their sins and they like to kill their god and kings... should anyone have ever expected anything differently? our constitution knew that about meankind . oh but we did take it for granted for about 4 years. not any longer right? the message from the sons of hell has always been the same one. our way or die! it is the same old war the same old way.
The current state of the Country shows religious views are meaningless in the long run as "religious" people vote for both parties. The voting has not changed the decline one bit. Nor will it.

KJV Daniel 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

This is Christ's Kingdom and it will destroy all other Nations. Christians either Support Christ's Kingdom or those ruled by Satan. Those are the only two choices.
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Old 10-29-2016, 07:09 PM
 
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This is Christ's Kingdom and it will destroy all other Nations. Christians either Support Christ's Kingdom or those ruled by Satan. Those are the only two choices.
And what would happen if nobody -- absolutely nobody -- voted? Can you even imagine a country where people of multiple religions and cultures had to peacefully co-exist without any laws of the land to govern us? Sure, it would be great if we all believed exactly the same and could all be trusted not to take advantage of one another, but that's not the world we live in. I cannot even begin to conceive of the chaos that would exist without governments. We here in the United States are so blessed to be able to vote for who we believe will best direct our country. Jesus said to render unto Caesar that which was Caesar. He never advocated overthrowing Caesar and just hoping for the best. You make it sound as if anyone who exercises his right to vote is ruled by Satan. I'll be happy when Christ returns to reign, but for the time being, I believe He expects us to do what we can to work for better lives for all of our citizens. This involves compromise -- not of your own integrity, but of the idea that everything has to be done your way or else.
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