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Old 03-07-2017, 03:57 PM
 
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Here's what Jesus said about what we call the OT:

Luke 24

25 He said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow to believe all that the prophets have spoken! 26 Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?” 27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.
That was spoken to the Pharisees and other religious LEADERS who were taking the people down the road to perdition with FALSE TEACHINGS and DENYING God's will....it WAS NOT AN ENDORSEMENT of an ancient BOOK as a replacement for God...
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Old 03-07-2017, 03:58 PM
 
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Yes. Fundamentalist Christians love, they don't set off car bombs.
Just blow up clinics, government buildings and kill school children...
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Old 03-07-2017, 04:00 PM
 
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That was spoken to the Pharisees and other religious LEADERS who were taking the people down the road to perdition with FALSE TEACHINGS and DENYING God's will....it WAS NOT AN ENDORSEMENT of an ancient BOOK as a replacement for God...
It was an endorsment of the prophets.
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Old 03-07-2017, 04:00 PM
 
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I'm a pastor, but not a Southern Baptist.

WIthout Christ, yes, people will be going to hell.


Nothing about Christianity, fundamentalist or otherwise, teaches violence. There is no Biblical command for Christians to go and kill anyone.
Without Christ in their back pockets? In their glove box? Hanging on the rear view mirror?

So all the millions of folks who have died before hearing of Christ are destined for hell, including all the murdered children?
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Old 03-07-2017, 04:04 PM
 
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No issue with mainstream Muslims. Have met many over the years.

Radical Muslims and Fundamental Christians are both cut from the same cloth: lie, misinterpret and condemn to ensure that your way of thinking and your belief system is the only valid one. All others be damned.
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Old 03-07-2017, 04:05 PM
 
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I think people are people. For the most part, leaders screw the pooch.

The muslim religion is one of the most dangerous ideologies today,
second only to far left liberalism.

that'll change. It always does.
I believe that far right conservatism is a far more dangerous ideology than what mainstream muslims believe. At least they are not trying to deny equal rights to so many all in the name of God.
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Old 03-07-2017, 04:17 PM
 
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It was an endorsment of the prophets.
and the book was just background and carried NO WEIGHT...
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Old 03-07-2017, 04:18 PM
 
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Yes. Fundamentalist Christians love, they don't set off car bombs.
hmmmmm...guess I could generate a list and you could make a list and we can compare?




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Old 03-07-2017, 04:44 PM
 
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I'm not a Christian so I can't answer the OP directly. However I will say as a Muslim that nearly all of my interactions with Christians on discussions of religion, philosophy, etc... have been respectful and warm when done in-person. I don't think ill of Christians, and respect their rights to their churches and beliefs. I hate seeing it when people whom prescribe to be Muslim attack any of their places of worship or oppress them in any way.

Also I would say that a mainstream Muslim does believe in heaven and hell, prays, and takes his/her religion seriously. Part of that is accepting numerous evidences from our religion where we find that we're required to obey the laws of the land as long as those laws don't stop us from performing the basics of our religion (fasting, prayer, belief, charity, hajj).
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:36 PM
 
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It is clear that many people do not like fundamentalist Muslims.

But what about nominal Muslims? Those people who were raised in the religion of Islam, but are only there because of that tradition and upbringing. Liberal Muslims who don't believe in the supernatural beliefs of the Muslim heaven and hell, but who do believe in one universal God who is the same as the God that Jews and Unitarians believe in, essentially.

I believe that many fundamentalist Muslims will convert to fundamentalist Christianity. But the same could be also true of liberal Muslims "converting" to a liberal Christian church.

What do you think of these non-fundamentalist Muslims? Do you see them as any kind of threat?
What stripes and bruises I feel about Islam?
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