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He merely gives YOU over to YOURSELF, and the thoughts YOU maintain and believe are true.
Exchanging the truth of God for a lie, worshiping and serving the created things (i.e., the Bible).
Rather than the Creator himself.
The text really doesn't say that. It says we are "judged", or "condemned", according to the context.
He merely gives YOU over to YOURSELF, and the thoughts YOU maintain and believe are true.
Exchanging the truth of God for a lie, worshiping and serving the created things (i.e., the Bible).
Rather than the Creator himself.
Right. Condemned [doomed] to what comes of believing that God is distant, wrathful, punishing, etc.
Actually John 3:18 says they are condemned already because they didn't believe. Did you see that? Or are your universalist blinkers on?
Pcamps has often asked the question, and I've never seen it answered by a "fundie" like you call yourself:
You have not always been believing, correct? So then, what was your experience of being "condemned already" during that time period before you were believing?
Here is what John 3 says the "condemnation/judgment" is:
"And this is the judgement: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. 20For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. 21But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.”
Weird how John 3 doesn't say that anyone is going to being eternally tormented after their physical death either, but you see it there anyway.
It does say that one must be born again to enter the kingdom of God...it says unless one believes they are condemned, etc. It does draw a distinction between the believer and the unbeliever, and it is clear that they don't go to the same place.
Or, they have read the complete book, not just sections.
I'm the one advocating for reading it in context, not just ripping one verse out of context, as the OP did, and as many on here are suggesting. You need to read 3:18 and 8:15 in context.
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