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Old 09-12-2017, 01:34 PM
 
Location: New England
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Yes it is. He most definitely used fear to draw me to Him (and my friend) and to this day we both can't thank Him enough that He did, regardless of the shock it put both of us through as we watched our nice, "normal" spiritually blind world disintegrate into the reality of what actually IS. To Him be all the glory. Peace
It shows and explains a lot.
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Old 09-12-2017, 02:01 PM
 
Location: New England
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Yes it is. He most definitely used fear to draw me to Him (and my friend) and to this day we both can't thank Him enough that He did, regardless of the shock it put both of us through as we watched our nice, "normal" spiritually blind world disintegrate into the reality of what actually IS. To Him be all the glory. Peace
One thing i have noticed about your posts is your failure to support what you are saying with scripture. Do you have scriptures to back up that God drew you by fear

There have been 2 defining moments after i first believed. One was the grace that brought me back to him having forgotten it due to being deeply immersed in fundamentalism,,the grace that gives confidence to approach boldly the throne of grace.

Let us then approach God's throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.

The other seeing that there was never a time when i was not loved of God, this occured after i walked away from the church

I have loved you with an everlasting love, with loving kindness i have drawn you
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Old 09-12-2017, 02:14 PM
 
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It shows and explains a lot.

The think is, you ASSUME that the fear was TOWARDS G-d. It was not. Peace
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Old 09-12-2017, 02:17 PM
 
Location: New England
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The think is, you ASSUME that the fear was TOWARDS G-d. It was not. Peace
What was it towards then ?. You, not me actually said "he used fear to draw you".
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Old 09-12-2017, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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It shows and explains a lot.
Indeed.
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Old 09-12-2017, 02:23 PM
 
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Anything is nothing, until you label it something:
The meanings of words are subject to your interpretation now.

"Anything is nothing"... laughable

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"Telling your children they are going to hell, if they don't believe is NOT a motivator."
You don't know what motivates every single person. Everyone is different.

No boundaries for you. Words are subject to your interpretation... everyone is subject to what you think motivates them. We are all just part of your world.
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Old 09-12-2017, 02:24 PM
 
Location: USA
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...There have been 2 defining moments after i first believed. One was the grace that brought me back to him having forgotten it due to being deeply immersed in fundamentalism,,the grace that gives confidence to approach boldly the throne of grace.

Let us then approach God's throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.

The other seeing that there was never a time when i was not loved of God, this occured after i walked away from the church

I have loved you with an everlasting love, with loving kindness i have drawn you

Words to bask in and allow to permeate until it flows over.
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Old 09-12-2017, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The "anything" in the statement includes love, compassion, death, and destruction. Anything means anything.

God is the ultimate good. Anytime we seek Him it is good.
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Anything is nothing, until you label it something:

"Telling your children they are going to hell, if they don't believe is NOT a motivator."
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The meanings of words are subject to your interpretation now.

"Anything is nothing"... laughable
Anything was nothing, until YOU decided to labeled it SOMETHING:
Love, compassion, death and destruction. YOU left out your FEAR.

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You don't know what motivates every single person. Everyone is different.

No boundaries for you. Words are subject to your interpretation... everyone is subject to what you think motivates them. We are all just part of your world.
Love has no limit or boundary, unless you cover over it with fear, death and destruction.
I'm not the one living in a basement waiting for a flood to come, move to higher ground.
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Old 09-12-2017, 03:30 PM
 
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I'm not the one living in a basement waiting for a flood to come, move to higher ground.
What's that supposed to mean ??
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Old 09-12-2017, 04:01 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Jerwade I'm not the one living in a basement waiting for a flood to come, move to higher ground.
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What's that supposed to mean ??
It means he is out to insult all of your intelligence again.

Yes, surely, let him blare that horn, eat the microphone.

They claim they have the answers to everything in rows.

But then it's too scientific for them to see what's at stairs.


Yes, that night showed Orion laying down, those 3 stars.

If he thinks a high-rise will save him, he has no sunrises.

The sky shifts, land shifts, water rises, Earth in Heavens.


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