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Amen, Pleroo. They seem to be allergic to these explanations that have been provided so frequently. You probably understand their all-or-nothing mindset better than I do. It is very puzzling to me.
Yet your belief about the authenticity of scripture is pure speculation. Basically, “God wouldn’t do that”, despite the fact that the prophets, Jesus and the Apostles all preached the same message:
1) All have sinned...
2) God so loved the world...
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Maybe because one doesn't believe in the following:
(1) Ghosts
(2) Fables
(3) A special group of "chosen" people
(4) Noah and the crowded Ark
(5) Moses and his commandments
(6) Some human being born of a "virgin"
(7) The same ole Egyptian "Horus Story" being told yet again...
(8) The likelihood that Moses, Christ, and Mohammad all were personally visited by GOD when they were alone when given commandments
(9) Woman was made from a man's rib
(10) The truth was somehow originated and monopolized in the remote area of the vast earth called the "Middle East"...
Lack of belief and understanding does not mean the"belief" is true. Now you are also conflating some non Biblical beliefs with the Bible so that makes it even harder to grasp.
All you have to do to dispel any lies of that nature of the carnal minds of men, is look up the names of the people, places, and things in every book, written over thousands of years by different writers, and then ask yourself could men write such a magnificent narrative hidden in the works? The answer is NO. Peace
What? No takers from all you "seekers" after truth out there? Why am I not surprised. Peace
I never said that the original autographs were different from the Bible we now have. Nor have I ever claimed that the original autographs still exist. Nor do they need to exist for New Testament textual critics to be confident that the Bible we now have is some 99 percent faithful to the original autographs, with the vast majority of the variants having no effect on the cardinal doctrines of the Christian faith. And now is a good time to post an old thread of mine which addresses that fact.
RESPONSE: So there are 400,000 "variants" to the Bible but they are 99% faithful to the original autographs that we don't have.
Does anyone beside myself find that claim completely illogical.
You can't take 10 minutes to begin to educate yourself about the subject of textual criticism and why our Bible is mostly faithful to the original autographs despite the vast number of textual variants? You would rather just scoff about something that you don't understand? Is that what you're all about?
I also direct whoever may be reading this to go to the thread - //www.city-data.com/forum/chris...eliable-7.html and read post #64 where I explain the kinds of variants that exist in the New Testament manuscripts and which ones are meaningless, and which ones (less than one percent) have some effect on the meaning of the text.
I should add that the estimated 400,000 variants refers to the New Testament manuscripts. Not the Old Testament.
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What? No takers from all you "seekers" after truth out there? Why am I not surprised. Peace
First, you might want to look up the term apophenia.
Second, no matter what you think this wonderful narrative is, it doesn't change the contradictory views of God, and other issues, which are presented in the literal reading of the bible.
First, you might want to look up the term apophenia.
Second, no matter what you think this wonderful narrative is, it doesn't change the contradictory views of God, and other issues, which are presented in the literal reading of the bible.
And you might want to look up the word, irrational. Let me help you: refusing to let the facts interfere with your opinion, is one definition.
Yes it does. Because a rational unbiased person would go, "hmm, I need to pay attention here, this is not humanly possible." Peace
All you have to do to dispel any lies of that nature of the carnal minds of men, is look up the names of the people, places, and things in every book, written over thousands of years by different writers, and then ask yourself could men write such a magnificent narrative hidden in the works? The answer is NO. Peace
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What? No takers from all you "seekers" after truth out there? Why am I not surprised. Peace
Yes, overtime. But you won't see the pattern of adding to, or subtracting from.
Why is that - because you are too color blind <bleep> to see it for yourself.
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Yes, overtime. But you won't see the pattern of adding to, or subtracting from.
Why is that - because you are too color blind (i.e., racist) to see it for yourself.
It's odd isn't it? So many of us have this "disorder" that have never met one another in real life, yet we find the same things when we study. Not to mention all the other people I know and have met over the decades that do. And I am not racist, lol....if you knew me, you'd know how ignorant a statement that is. Peace
And you might want to look up the word, irrational. Let me help you: refusing to let the facts interfere with your opinion, is one definition.
Yes it does. Because a rational unbiased person would go, "hmm, I need to pay attention here, this is not humanly possible." Peace
It's irrational that you ignored the other point:
"Second, no matter what you think this wonderful narrative is, it doesn't change the contradictory views of God, and other issues, which are presented in the literal reading of the bible."
And, you've never been able to express in terms that anyone outside of your bible-coder club understands, what exactly this wonderful narrative is, or how it adds to your growth in the love of God. So, whatever message you all are finding does not appear to be from the God who is love.
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They seem to be allergic to these explanations that have been provided so frequently. You probably understand their all-or-nothing mindset better than I do. It is very puzzling to me.
Peace
