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Old 02-25-2018, 01:37 AM
 
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No.

However, in the context of your question, most Christians refer to Romans 1:18+, rather than Leviticus. But, even that is an incorrect assumption and approach.

The point of the Old Testament commands was NOT so people could figure-out what rules/laws they must keep to 'get right with God.' - It was to establish a basis for all people to understand that "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God" ... and recognize one's own need for repentance and reconciliation with God through Jesus Christ. (Righteousness never came by law-keeping).
Where in your Old Testament does it state this?...
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Old 02-25-2018, 03:06 AM
 
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Christians have been adopted into the house of Judah through Jesus Christ so the ten commandments are still evident today for them by the covenant of knowing The Lord through spirit and truth and not through the law , as the Spirit of God quickens the ten commandment through the spirit of Christ on Christians ........Blasting spiritual diversity is contentious against the liberal cause , so very political
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Old 02-25-2018, 05:17 AM
 
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This question is for Christians and particularly for those Christians who STILL use Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 to aim at gay people in an attempt to make them squirm.

The question is an easy one to answer. It's either 'yes' or 'no'. However, if it is 'yes' then a brief explanation will be required.

The question: Do you HONESTLY give a damn about ANY of the commands of Leviticus?

This could be a very short thread .. .
I care about anything God says. Why reject it?
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Old 02-25-2018, 05:27 AM
 
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Dont open yourself for attack here. Lev 11 are the dietary laws most Christians ignore and Lev 23 are the biblical Feast Days that God said were his days, not the Jews, in which Christians also dont keep...Those 2 areas are the main attacks points by Hebrew Roots and Messianic against mainstream Christianity.
In the NT Jesus and God eliminated the dietary laws: Mark 7:19 & Acts 10: 10-15.

Col 2:15-16 tell us that festival are only a shadow of the good things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ. All 7 of them teach a spiritual truth. For example, Passover points to Jesus' crucifixion.
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Old 02-25-2018, 05:30 AM
 
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Actually, when read in proper context and not just snippets, there is nowhere in the NT in which Gods followers ate unclean foods or taught others to do so as well.

Gal 2:12 tells us Peter ate with the Gentiles. They probably did not have all kosher foods.
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Old 02-25-2018, 05:32 AM
 
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If you truly want an answer, your questions shouldn't include bashing Christians . This is the first post I've ever read in this forum and I must say, this is very hateful and nasty.
Christians do not use Leviticus "to make another person squirm". If that is happening to you, then it's probably the holy spirit convicting you.
Do I care about those commands in Leviticus? Yes but within the context they were given. Christians live in the new covenant, not the old covenant which passed away. So most of us don't give a whole lot of credence beyond the 10 commandments re-iterated in the New Testament.
Speak for your self, not for me. The OT was inspired by God as much as the NT is.
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Old 02-25-2018, 05:33 AM
 
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The New Covenant is for the Houses of Judah and Israel only...
All of the Bible is for all believers in God.
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Old 02-25-2018, 06:35 AM
 
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This question is for Christians and particularly for those Christians who STILL use Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 to aim at gay people in an attempt to make them squirm.

The question is an easy one to answer. It's either 'yes' or 'no'. However, if it is 'yes' then a brief explanation will be required.

The question: Do you HONESTLY give a damn about ANY of the commands of Leviticus?

This could be a very short thread .. .
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Your question is incorrect so how can you expect anyone to answer truthfully?
How can a question be incorrect? It's a question.

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But if you asking why adhere to parts of Leviticus and ignore the other Mosiac law . . .
Yes, that IS what I'm asking.

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. . .is because the sin of Homosexuality is reinforced in the New Testament . . .
It is? Where? In fact, where is homosexuality called a 'sin' at all in either the Old OR the New Testaments? I can't even find the word 'homosexuality' in my King James Bible. And, as far as I'm aware ...there is no equivalent word in Hebrew, in Aramaic or in Greek. Should I best purchase a post-1946 Bible which does include the word 'homosexuality'?

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. . .diet restrictions are not.
Why? Why would God see fit to forbid certain foods in the Old Testament but not in the New? The forbidding of 'unclean' food had nothing to do with any of the statutes and ordinances that pointed to Jesus and were 'nailed to the cross'. Why is one particular command of God 'lifted' simply because of some 'new and improved' covenant? If certain foods were unclean at one time what suddenly makes them 'clean' now ...?
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Old 02-25-2018, 06:48 AM
 
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In the NT Jesus and God eliminated the dietary laws: Mark 7:19 & Acts 10: 10-15.

Col 2:15-16 tell us that festival are only a shadow of the good things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ. All 7 of them teach a spiritual truth. For example, Passover points to Jesus' crucifixion.
If Jesus eliminated them, then he would have actually been going agaisnt his fathers word and would have been a sinner, and we all know he didnt sin, so neither of the eliminated them.

Mark 7 & Mat 15 was a parable about not washing your hands doesnt make one unclean. Acts 10:28 clarified Acts 10:10-15 that his vision was about not referring to the gentiles as Unclean. Peters vision had nothing to do with unclean food now being clean.

Col 2, in context is telling the new believers in Colossians to not let anyone judge them for actually keeping the commandments, not the other way around. I used to strongly believe Jesus said Christian can eat anything they want, until I reread the entire New Testament 2-3 times in context, with an open mind and no doctrines attacked, and it was then when you realize that mainstream Christianity now flips an takes Matt 15, Acts 10, Col 2, 1 Tim 4, and Romans all out of context so say you can eat unclean foods.
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Old 02-25-2018, 06:52 AM
 
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Your question is incorrect so how can you expect anyone to answer truthfully? But if you asking why adhere to parts of Leviticus and ignore the other Mosiac law is because the sin of Homosexuality is reinforced in the New Testament, diet restrictions are not.
where/ chapter and verse where Jesus said it was a sin?
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