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Well my son and i both think that sin has the authority to create . Just as life creates so does death create ...
So acts of death can and do create a spiritual power! These spiritual powers and authorities created in the minds of men give life to them .....are what we call demons.. Powers who own the butt of the one who created them! that is your baby that likes to live in the dark away from the light of God ..
Well until such time as you accept the Lords offer fully and completely and then the Lord buys you from them with his blood.
our verse being
Ephesians 6:12, NIV: "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."
espcially if our sins are what is creating those powers..
and mathew 12 pretty much the whole chapter ... the house being empty, swept clean.. or full means little if their is a house/or kingdom of darkness to hide from the light of God in.
the Lord has to buy the house and then go about tearing it down brick by brick.. lie by lie.. or they hide from God there
How do you explain giants breeding with normal sized women?
Or were they born to normal people and became giants?
How do you explain the numerous times when angels materialized as humans? Where did the physical mass (their bodies) come from and how did they accomplish this?
Just like the Nephilim, its something we cannot understand or begin to explain...point is..it JUST happened.
OH but head shaping alone( putting pressure on the pituitary of both parents then child.. can account for the large size and the Giants don't even have to be related by blood but by cultural elements that would keep the de-evolving de - evolving slower than some people not doing those same cultural elements. making for false condition like the pre-flood conditions which made all animals and people larger . ( see mega fauna)
only in the minds of men who fear everything they dont know would all those people be related... and men don't know what they don't know.
that preasure on the pituitary by increased air preasure and head shaping would be increasing the size of humanity and all creation, including plant life would DE - evolve .. see all the experiments .. but increased preasure alone accounts for all "Giants " all by itself . giant grapes even ..
now head shaping after the flood could account for the giants after the flood.
no one knows how tall Adam was or how tall all the giants were, Giants now days every calls Nephilim every one taller than themselves. which I think is narcissistic ignorance on the part of our so called scientists. you know the ones who write to books that indoctrinate our dumbed down society.
but most of them ignore the giants and try and keep everyone monkey size. or they are alien chasers...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLealre_cHw so until those goofy folks put together recorded history none of them have any right to tell anyone what happened yesterday much less thousands of years ago.
until someone tells the truth and tell humanity what happened at Joshua's long day and why sea levels fell like 1100 feet at the bronze age colapse . They don't have a right to be heard, especially if they are trying to indoctrinate peoples children with their monkey or alien business.
I believe the bible does state how tall they were in a few different places, i recall they were somewhere around 450 ft tall, but the bible list the height in cubits
I believe the bible does state how tall they were in a few different places, i recall they were somewhere around 450 ft tall, but the bible list the height in cubits
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I believe the bible does state how tall they were in a few different places, i recall they were somewhere around 450 ft tall, but the bible list the height in cubits
The 450 ft or so comes from 1 Enoch.
05-06-2018, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by rstevens62
How do you explain the numerous times when angels materialized as humans? Where did the physical mass (their bodies) come from and how did they accomplish this?
Just like the Nephilim, its something we cannot understand or begin to explain...point is..it JUST happened.
I believe the bible does state how tall they were in a few different places, i recall they were somewhere around 450 ft tall, but the bible list the height in cubits
While 1 Enoch gives such exaggerated heights for the Nephilim, nowhere does the Bible do so. The Septuagint in 1 Samuel 17:4 gives Goliath's height as 4 1/2 cubits. The Biblical cubit was measured as the distance between the elbow and the tip of the extended middle finger. About 18 inches give or take a bit. By the Septuagint's account, that would make Goliath about 6 ft. 9 inches tall.
1 Samuel 17:4 And there went forth a mighty man out of the army of the Philistines, Goliath, by name, out of Geth, his height [was] four cubits and a span.
Even the Septuagint's given height for Goliath of 6 ft. 9 in. would have been considered tall in comparison with the average height of a man at that time. But even the Masorectic text's height of 8 ft. 3 in. is within the range of possible human height.
King Og's bed is said in Deuteronomy 3:11 to have been 9 cubits in length which is about 13 1/2 feet which may give an indication of King Og's height. Not that he himself would have been as big as his bed.
Deuteronomy 3:11 For only Og the king of Basan was left of the Raphain: behold, his bed [was] a bed of iron; behold, [it is] in the chief city of the children of Ammon; the length of it [is] nine cubits, and the breadth of it four cubits, according to the cubit of a man.
Addendum: Concerning the dimensions of Og's bed, it's interesting that those dimensions apparently match the dimensions given for the bed in the ziggurat called Etemenanki.
Quoting Old Testament scholar Michael Heiser:
''. . . the most immediate link back to the Babylonian polemic is Og’s bed (Hebrew, eres).[1] Its dimensions (9 x 4 cubits) are precisely those of the cultic bed in the ziggurat called Etemenanki—which is the ziggurat most archaeologists identify as the Tower of Babel referred to in the Bible.[2] Ziggurats functioned as temples and divine abodes. The unusually large bed at Etemenanki was housed in “the house of the bed” (bet ersi). It was the place where the god Marduk and his divine wife, Zarpanitu, met annually for ritual love-making, the purpose of which was divine blessing upon the land.[3]
Scholars have been struck by the precise correlation. It’s hard not to conclude that, like Genesis 6:1-4, those who put the finishing touches on the Old Testament during the exile in Babylon were connecting Marduk and Og in some way. The most transparent path is in fact giant stature. Og is said to have been the last of the Rephaim—a term connected to the giant Anakim and other ancient giant clans in the Transjordan (Deut. 2:11, 20). Marduk, like other deities in antiquity, was portrayed as superhuman in size.[4] However, the real matrix of ideas in the mind of the biblical author may stem more from word play deriving from Babylonian mythology.[5]
While 1 Enoch gives such exaggerated heights for the Nephilim, nowhere does the Bible do so. The Septuagint in 1 Samuel 17:4 gives Goliath's height as 4 1/2 cubits. The Biblical cubit was measured as the distance between the elbow and the tip of the extended middle finger. About 18 inches give or take a bit. By the Septuagint's account, that would make Goliath about 6 ft. 9 inches tall.
1 Samuel 17:4 And there went forth a mighty man out of the army of the Philistines, Goliath, by name, out of Geth, his height [was] four cubits and a span.
Even the Septuagint's given height for Goliath of 6 ft. 9 in. would have been considered tall in comparison with the average height of a man at that time. But even the Masorectic text's height of 8 ft. 3 in. is within the range of possible human height.
King Og's bed is said in Deuteronomy 3:11 to have been 9 cubits in length which is about 13 1/2 feet which may give an indication of King Og's height. Not that he himself would have been as big as his bed.
Deuteronomy 3:11 For only Og the king of Basan was left of the Raphain: behold, his bed [was] a bed of iron; behold, [it is] in the chief city of the children of Ammon; the length of it [is] nine cubits, and the breadth of it four cubits, according to the cubit of a man.
No more fanciful than spirit beings taking physical form and having sex and offspring with humans or talking donkeys, or turning poles into snakes, or people rising from the dead, or virgin births, or the sun standing still, etc.
No more fanciful than spirit beings taking physical form and having sex and offspring with humans or talking donkeys, or turning poles into snakes, or people rising from the dead, or virgin births, or the sun standing still, etc.
Oh very good.
I've just been reading how the transfiguration could have possibly been the real resurrection event, occuring after Jesus's death - one being the true spiritual meaning of what happens after death, and the other the Judaistic expression of materialism /physicalism. The textual and historical exegesis and critique is that the writers probably screwed around with the order, and meaning, based on their beliefs and-or what they wanted to project.
May as well shake it all up and see what withstands.
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