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Zman, do you know actual churches who don’t do charity work?
There's are a lot of good work being doing throughout the whole world, christianity does not own the corner on this, so please do not use what a church maybe doing as some sort of proof of anything. Let's make this very clear, proof you have anything of any worth is by doing 3 things that God is approving of.... 1, Loving the world(that sadly so many bible believers condemn, remember God loved it, and telling it how awful it is is not loving it)... 2... Not only loving those that love you but love those that don't love you(there goes that concept if you don't love Jesus in return you will burn)....3 You have love one for another (You no longer step out of abiding in the love of God when a brother/sister offends you).
If your beliefs on these 3 points hit the mark, then and then only will i lend you an ear.
Let's hope that's not the mindset of most. But for those whom it is, it can't becoming from a heart that experiences much love or joy, and that is unfortunate for them.
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Very true Pleroo, when you live in the moment of knowing that you are absolutely loved and lose yourself in it, you just can't comprehend that the world is not loved in the same manner too. All these warnings and threats are only for those who although they say they are under grace are still under the law.
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On the bright side, for those of us who existed in that place most firmly and for any length of time, the experience of coming out from under it is almost indescribably amazing. Freeing, exhilarating, life-changing. And I expect the same experience for those who are still there, at some point.
That is the fervent hope of all who follow Christ's Gospel (Good News) of God's love! Your exchanges today, my brothers and sisters, make my heart sing!
Zman, do you know actual churches who don’t do charity work?
Promoting any Church for the "charity" work they do runs counter to Jesus direction, which when doing such is to NOT let your right hand know what your left is doing. When it is public there is no reward from God just man. Now not saying it is bad but that it is not evidence of God's spirit with any church. In most cases it is used to make people feel they are obeying Jesus when in fact they are not.
I know, what is it that people don't get ...demons, hell, adulterers everywhere, torture, end times, lake of fire... I thought Jesus said spread the good news! Fear not cast your cares Be anxious for nothing Give him your burdens ask, believe, receive Do not worry Call to me John 16:23-4
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Reason: Forgot to add 'torture' !
I know, what is it that people don't get ...demons, hell, adulterers everywhere, torture, end times, lake of fire... I thought Jesus said spread the good news! Fear not cast your cares Be anxious for nothing Give him your burdens ask, believe, receive Do not worry Call to me John 16:23-4
He did, but the good news is GOOD because of the bad news. Judgement is coming, but Jesus took our judgement upon Himself and has rescued us from the penalty of sin.
He did, but the good news is GOOD because of the bad news. Judgement is coming, but Jesus took our judgement upon Himself and has rescued us from the penalty of sin.
The bad news is that so many people (especially some Christians, it seems) think God is keeping a record of wrongs and is planning to impose an eternal penalty and holds Godself separate from "sinners". The bad news is that they don't apparently realize that in God we all live and move and have our being, and that God is so near each one of us that there is no separation at all.
He did, but the good news is GOOD because of the bad news. Judgement is coming, but Jesus took our judgement upon Himself and has rescued us from the penalty of sin.
So there...BUT! why keep focusing on penalties? Or even sin or even any judgment?
Now, either there is good news in the Christian belief that Jesus took all sin past, present and future away...or else he did not.
It's like some are afraid to be joyous.
Shouldn't Christians happily spread that good news around! We have inherited his last will and testament....YAY!
What is the stickler? What is it that makes some concentrate on and harp on, pound into others
this fear of some hell and that God is the same ole OT God of punishment into eternity!
Can you tell me, jimmie? Take your time.
I see you as kind of a rep of Christianity, that I can speak with, sorry if I'm laying too much on you.
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