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Old 01-24-2019, 02:29 PM
 
Location: New England
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Ever heard of human trafficking? Seriously Matt, you need to open your eyes to the evil in our world.
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What are you doing about human trafficking jimmiej?

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Watching it all unfold on Fox and CNN. He does not understand yet that good news of any sort is not headline news, although good things are happening all around him if he cared to open his eyes and look, he would then realize the bad news that he's attracted to makes up very little of the real world in comparison to the good happening around him. So to appease the likes of Jimmie, at the end of the news they throw out a little feel good story, but not until after they have portayed the world to be falling apart.
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Why can’t you discuss things without the personal jabs? Seriously, lose the hate, man!
If you say so jimmie, you can't come up with the scripture that confirms Peter had the authority to determine what is and isn't scripture, so you throw the hate and persecution card out.
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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If you say so jimmie, you can't come up with the scripture that confirms Peter had the authority to determine what is and isn't scripture, so you throw the hate and persecution card out.
If you want to act like an adult, we can continue this discussion. If not, I’m done with you.
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:38 PM
 
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If you want to act like an adult, we can continue this discussion. If not, I’m done with you.
Well,it would help if you would point me to the scripture that i have been requesting stating what you are saying. Your choice to be done with me too, there's your escape clause.
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:42 PM
 
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Well,it would help if you would point me to the scripture that i have been requesting stating what you are saying. Your choice to be done with me too, there's your escape clause.
In John 21, Jesus gives Peter the duty and authority to shepherd the early church.
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:46 PM
 
Location: New England
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In John 21, Jesus gives Peter the duty and authority to shepherd the early church.
That is not implying what you are saying and you know it isn't. The scripture being referenced in 2 Timothy is the Torah, to think otherwise is just plain wrong, even if the NT is considered scripture.
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:48 PM
 
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That is not implying what you are saying and you know it isn't. The scripture being referenced in 2 Timothy is the Torah, to think otherwise is just plain wrong, even if the NT is considered scripture.
John 21 tells us that Peter knew what was Spirit-led and what wasn’t.
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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John 21 tells us that Peter knew what was Spirit-led and what wasn’t.
If it's in the bible - like the shekel-eating fish, talking donkey and dust-eating serpent - it must be true.
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:56 PM
 
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John 21 tells us that Peter knew what was Spirit-led and what wasn’t.
So do many believers, and using your argument we can if spirit led determine what is scripture and what isn't too. Like i have said to you, Peter got it wrong many a time when walking with Jesus and that did not magically change overnight after pentecost. What happened to him on pentecost is no different to our own individual pentecost. There is no NT writing that states anyone has the right to determine what is scripture outside of the OT and what isn't. While you are scrambling for other scriptures to back up your own beliefs, please provide me with a OT scripture foretelling of another compilation of books to be added to the Torah.
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Old 01-24-2019, 03:00 PM
 
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John 21 tells us that Peter knew what was Spirit-led and what wasn’t.
No it does not, provide the verse if i am missing something, it says feed my sheep and nothing more. Something the shepherds were not doing.
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Old 01-24-2019, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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So do many believers, and using your argument we can if spirit led determine what is scripture and what isn't too. Like i have said to you, Peter got it wrong many a time when walking with Jesus and that did not magically change overnight after pentecost. What happened to him on pentecost is no different to our own individual pentecost. There is no NT writing that states anyone has the right to determine what is scripture outside of the OT and what isn't. While you are scrambling for other scriptures to back up your own beliefs, please provide me with a OT scripture foretelling of another compilation of books to be added to the Torah.
But other believers didn’t have Jesus giving them authority.
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