What do you think Jesus meant by the Comforter? (crucified, incarnation, churches)

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by Free4you

Jesus described him. He is sent in the name of the son, instructs in everything and reminds of all the son said.

If you knew the name of the son and kept his teaching you would know everything and the Comforter.

Yes, yes, Oh all knowing one!

[Free4you]

Originally Posted by MysticPhD

Yes, yes, Oh all knowing one!

They thought the same of Jesus.

Someday all will see the son and the glory of the Father.

[Meerkat2]

Originally Posted by Free4you

They thought the same of Jesus.

Someday all will see the son and the glory of the Father.

But until then we all see a bit of it

[pcamps]

Originally Posted by MysticPhD

This came up in another thread and I believe it deserves its own thread. Those who do not believe in the rebirth as Spirit need to ask themselves what Jesus meant.

I believe he is calling truth to be the comforter, not bible truth, not fundy truth, but truth of being, that we are Spirit, thus one with God, and this is the truth he guides us into. To be honest I do not believe the disciples themselves really understood this, even after Pentecost. We know today too that just like then this is blasphemy to the ear of the fundamentalist.

[Miss Hepburn]

John 16:7-14 (KJV)
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away:
for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart,
I will send him unto you.

'''''''''''''''''''''''
Obviously 2 different beings.
My question..Does anyone know exactly why the Holy Spirit and Jesus couldn't be here at
the same time for us?

I don't know the answer.

So the Holy Spirit would not come unto us if he did not depart.
So what did Jesus mean about all that specifically?
AND Jesus has the power to send the Holy Spirit?
Does he still direct where to send Him?
Too many questions, I know...answer anything you can. Thanks.

[pcamps]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

John 16:7-14 (KJV)
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away:
for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart,
I will send him unto you.

'''''''''''''''''''''''
Obviously 2 different beings.
My question..Does anyone know exactly why the Holy Spirit and Jesus couldn't be here at
the same time for us?

I don't know the answer.

So the Holy Spirit would not come unto us if he did not depart.
So what did Jesus mean about all that specifically?
AND Jesus has the power to send the Holy Spirit?
Does he still direct where to send Him?
Too many questions, I know...answer anything you can. Thanks.

I believe Jesus had to go away otherwise we would be followers of him rather than what he is, and we are what he is. The coming again is the lifting of the veil that veils truth of being.... AS he is so are we in this world, this as always been the case, we just didn’t know it or believe it.

[DRob4JC]

Originally Posted by Jerwade

The Spirit of life dwells within all living things, not just believers.

Everyone has a spirit. Not everyone has the Holy Spirit.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by pcamps

I believe Jesus had to go away otherwise we would be followers of him

rather than what he is, and we are what he is.

I never heard it explained that way.

(BUT, it didn't cover why he had to go to be able to send the Holy Spirit.
Like they can not occupy the same place or be on earth at the same time?)

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by DRob4JC

Everyone has a spirit. Not everyone has the Holy Spirit.

That was very astute.

And why is that? Oh, that's a whole other topic..forget it.

[Arach Angle]

I think it means Jesus gives our brain a "string" to grab onto so the mind can function.

some brains turn that string into a metal chain that can't be broken. the string becomes more of an anchor point to function.

that isn't so bad until they they start forcing that chain on others.