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Old 07-13-2021, 11:33 AM
 
Location: the Kingdom of His dear Son
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Elementary Principles=

"Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of everlasting judgment."

Leaving elementary principles requires the work of God....

"And this will we do, if God permit."

Child = paidion

1. A young child/ little one/ infant.

2. One recently born.

3. Children in intellect.

Son = huios

1. Sharing the same nature as their Father (beginning with being born anew).

2. Growth by/in faith into conformity with the Father's nature.

 
Old 07-13-2021, 11:43 AM
 
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Elementary Principles=

"Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of everlasting judgment."

Leaving elementary principles requires the work of God....

"And this will we do, if God permit."

Child = paidion

1. A young child/ little one/ infant.

2. One recently born.

3. Children in intellect.

Son = huios

1. Sharing the same nature as their Father (beginning with being born anew).

2. Growth by/in faith into conformity with the Father's nature.
Rose, explain to us the "elementary principles" Paul was speaking of, I want to know more!

Last edited by Charlie24; 07-13-2021 at 12:41 PM..
 
Old 07-13-2021, 11:45 AM
 
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Many of us feel that way about you also
I can feel the love just oozing out of your bones...
 
Old 07-13-2021, 11:47 AM
 
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Elementary Principles=

"Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of everlasting judgment."

Leaving elementary principles requires the work of God....

"And this will we do, if God permit."

Child = paidion

1. A young child/ little one/ infant.

2. One recently born.

3. Children in intellect.

Son = huios

1. Sharing the same nature as their Father (beginning with being born anew).

2. Growth by/in faith into conformity with the Father's nature.
God will not permit us to leave off of teaching on the elementary principles (one of them being eternal judgment) as long as there are people in the picture teaching denial of them.
 
Old 07-13-2021, 12:50 PM
 
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God will not permit us to leave off of teaching on the elementary principles (one of them being eternal judgment) as long as there are people in the picture teaching denial of them.
Dear child: there is no such animal known as aidios kolasis in Canon, none.

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Old 07-13-2021, 01:06 PM
 
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Dear child: there is no such animal known as aidios kolasis in Canon, none.

Nor is there kolazien kolasis: none =zero.
All we want is something from scripture as a foundation without your bag of Greek tricks!

Again, we plainly see many are cast into the lake of fire, where do we see in scripture they get out?

Surly you have something with all this bold talk and assumed restoration?
 
Old 07-13-2021, 01:39 PM
 
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Guru, you guys have twisted the scripture to the point it is no longer the scripture.

Everything you have here is perversion! All of it comes from the UR dream.

No one can discuss this with you guys, I'm not going to even try, it's crazy!
LOL...I'm going to start calling you Faithless Charlie.
 
Old 07-13-2021, 01:48 PM
 
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Guru, you guys have twisted the scripture to the point it is no longer the scripture.

Everything you have here is perversion! All of it comes from the UR dream.

No one can discuss this with you guys, I'm not going to even try, it's crazy!

Or even better, you're now officially Grumpy Charlie...lol

Even my cat knows the scriptures better than you...lol When I quote the bible to her she purrs and rubs her neck against mine. When I quote the scriptures to you, you pound the table and rave like a mad man...LOL
 
Old 07-13-2021, 02:08 PM
 
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Or even better, you're now officially Grumpy Charlie...lol

Even my cat knows the scriptures better than you...lol When I quote the bible to her she purrs and rubs her neck against mine. When I quote the scriptures to you, you pound the table and rave like a mad man...LOL
Thanks, I like cats too!
 
Old 07-13-2021, 02:09 PM
 
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Dear child: there is no such animal known as aidios kolasis in Canon, none.
There is this.

Rev 20:10, And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

This scripture defines for us the nature of the lake of fire.

It is to be tormented day and night, age after age (to compromise and look at it your way slightly).

What does "age after age" mean?

It means that each aion is followed by another aion in which the person in the lake of fire will be "tormented day and night".

A good translation of "age after age" might be:

for ever and ever.

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