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Isn't God the Creator of the most logical, brilliant, mathematical things?
Why would He change so much and become some vengeful, blood thirsty Being?
Why would ANY Father want his son to suffer in any way?
Does that seem at all logical?
Does the Bible itself seem logical and truly make sense?
As if killing a goat would appease this Eternal Genius, of infinite knowledge and I dare say Love?
As if another person's death could really save another person...a bad person at that?
Now, another person could put his arm around the bad person (say your idiot brother!)
and say, "Dad, I know Bobby wrecked the car, but, he said he's sorry, won't take it again and will mow the lawn all summer without being asked. Could you lettim off the hook?"
Comments?
Added: And for Heaven's sake this isn't about bashing believers or non believers...thanks
Last edited by Miss Hepburn; 07-22-2019 at 08:54 AM..
Human understanding... human perspective... which is different from God's perspective, God's character, and God's holiness.
He sent His Son to suffer because He loves you and me - and He knows His character that He cannot be in the presence of sin. Death is required for sin. That's just the way it is. You can trust Him and accept it even though you may not fully understand it... or not, and take your chances that what God and Jesus Christ say about Themselves is not true.
Human understanding... human perspective... which is different from God's perspective, God's character, and God's holiness.
He sent His Son to suffer because He loves you and me - and He knows His character that He cannot be in the presence of sin. Death is required for sin. That's just the way it is. You can trust Him and accept it even though you may not fully understand it... or not, and take your chances that what God and Jesus Christ say about Themselves is not true.
God sent His Son into the world, 'that the world might be saved through Him.' His will is that people would give up their own sin and rebellion and follow Christ. But, people with free will had other ideas and instead, crucified Christ!
-- Christ demonstrated His love by freely giving His life over to them, but, neither He nor God hung Him on that cross. Yes, God has/d the power to reach down from heaven and 'smite' all who had any part in the crucifixion - or who continue in sin today, but, that has never been God's perfectly designed plan.
Instead, Jesus paid a debt He didn't own, for people who owed a (sin) debt they could not pay. (We cannot satisfy the 'death wages' of our own sin-filled life, with our own sin-filled life; but, Christ exchanged His perfect life, for ours)
Jesus is the Creator who thought it worthwhile to sacrifice His human life to take away the sins of the world, because NO ONE ELSE COULD.......we could be nailed to a cross and not take away one sin. The law saved no one. Jesus stretched out His hand to every human who wants to be with Him forever through that cross, removed the barriers to entry through grace and mercy.......He has sent out the invitation to all......wise ones will take Him up on the offer.......
God/Creator is not human and therefore neither male or female with all the good and bad traits of a human being.
God is not, the "person" man has written about in the Bible in order to blame God or a fictitious devil who makes bad things happen in order to teach or test us.
We are solely responsible for any "sin" we commit.
God promised to send the Holy Spirit to each one of us to further teach what Christ taught. That lesson is God is pure love, and pure love does not include any human likeness. His spirit teaches love, charity, humility, acceptance, forgiveness and above all that God never changes, and therefore never regrets anything created.
God/Creator is not human and therefore neither male or female with all the good and bad traits of a human being.
God is not, the "person" man has written about in the Bible in order to blame God or a fictitious devil who makes bad things happen in order to teach or test us.
We are solely responsible for any "sin" we commit.
God promised to send the Holy Spirit to each one of us to further teach what Christ taught. That lesson is God is pure love, and pure love does not include any human likeness. His spirit teaches love, charity, humility, acceptance, forgiveness and above all that God never changes, and therefore never regrets anything created.
Hi, Miss Blue. If God is not the ''person'' that man has written about in the Bible then how do you know that God promised to send the Holy Spirit to further teach what Christ taught? Further, if God is not the ''person'' that man wrote about in the Bible then how do you know that God is pure love? These are things that man says about God in the Bible.
How do you know for sure that Satan is fictitious rather than an actual being? Do you believe that all angels are fictitious?
You are correct that we are solely responsible for any sin that we commit. But that has no bearing on whether or not Satan, a fallen angel who himself chose to sin, exists.
Good you see you Mike.
In answer to all your thoughtful questions.
I don't know "for sure" anything about God. I am sure however that there is a God/creator/higher power and that the Spirit that lives in me, perhaps as my conscious, is there for the reasons I mentioned in my post.
Probably the reason I try to respect anyone's religion/beliefs is because of "are you sure?"
God has many attributes. He is not just love. None of God's attributes can take precedence over any of His other attributes. God cannot compromise His attributes of righteousness and justice for the sake of His love. He must be true to all that He is. Since sin is a violation of God's perfect righteousness it incurs a penalty. The penalty for sin is spiritual death or separation from God forever. But because God is also love He did not desire that anyone should have to incur the penalty.
For that reason, God the Father commissioned the second person of the Trinity to enter into the human race as a human being (while still being God) and pay the penalty for our sins on the cross in our place as a perfect, sinless man, Love motivated God to provide the solution to man's sin problem which God's justice demanded must be addressed.
While Jesus died for our sins as a man, because He is also God, his death as a man had infinite worth, so that in the three hours from 12:00 noon to about 3PM he paid in full the penalty for every sin ever committed or that ever will be committed in human history. For that reason, anyone who simply believes on Jesus Christ has eternal life and will not perish. But anyone not trusting in Jesus for salvation remains under condemnation. It's a volitional issue.
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