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I really don't see how I'm missing what was said..
He released a document that clarified 5 questions from a prior document. The prior document railed against other churches as "not true churches".
What am I missing again?
I don't believe you will find his comments in contadiction to the following:
"813 The Church is one because of her source: "the highest exemplar and source of this mystery is the unity, in the Trinity of Persons, of one God, the Father and the Son in the Holy Spirit." The Church is one because of her founder: for "the Word made flesh, the prince of peace, reconciled all men to God by the cross, . . . restoring the unity of all in one people and one body." The Church is one because of her "soul": "It is the Holy Spirit, dwelling in those who believe and pervading and ruling over the entire Church, who brings about that wonderful communion of the faithful and joins them together so intimately in Christ that he is the principle of the Church's unity." Unity is of the essence of the Church: "
People kneel, bow, kiss the ring and call him Holy father. There are those that worship him. And he was ordained by a body of men, by vote.
godspeed,
freedom
Kneeling, bowing, kissing are all signs of respect. Funny how some people will do all kinds of stupid things just to touch or get an autograph of a celebrity or the way a lot of people worship and idolize their pets, but they have a hard time showing respect for the Pope
BTW, Acts1:26, And they cast lots for them, and the lot fell on Matthias; he was enrolled with the eleven apsotles".
Here we read how men, through the Holy Spirit, "ordained" the twelveth apostle after Judas hung himself .
Acts 6:2-3, And the Twelve summoned the body of the disciples and said, it is not right that we should give up preaching the word of God to serve tables. Therefore, brethren, pick out from among you seven men of good repute, full of the spirit and of wisdom, whom we may appoint to this duty".
Here we read the apostles "ordaining" the first 7 deacons of the early Church.
The Pope may ordained by other men, but he is ordained through the Holy Spirit.
Kneeling, bowing, kissing are all signs of respect. Funny how some people will do all kinds of stupid things just to touch or get an autograph of a celebrity or the way a lot of people worship and idolize their pets, but they have a hard time showing respect for the Pope
two wrongs don't make a right.
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BTW, Acts1:26, And they cast lots for them, and the lot fell on Matthias; he was enrolled with the eleven apsotles".
The comparison of today and yesterday are not convienient, the Apostles chosen of Christ lived by the power of the Holy Spirit, they cast out demons, raised the dead, healed all manner of sickness and disease. Their fruits were in power.
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Acts 6:2-3, And the Twelve summoned the body of the disciples and said, it is not right that we should give up preaching the word of God to serve tables. Therefore, brethren, pick out from among you seven men of good repute, full of the spirit and of wisdom, whom we may appoint to this duty".
The key is the Spirit.
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Here we read the apostles "ordaining" the first 7 deacons of the early Church.
I dare say none ever called one of them HOLY FATHER.
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The Pope may ordained by other men, but he is ordained through the Holy Spirit.
Highly unlikely. The Spirit tells me that the organized church is at enmity with God.
The Pope is an elected official of the Vatican country.
The comparison of today and yesterday are not convienient, the Apostles chosen of Christ lived by the power of the Holy Spirit, they cast out demons, raised the dead, healed all manner of sickness and disease. Their fruits were in power.
The key is the Spirit.
I dare say none ever called one of them HOLY FATHER.
Highly unlikely. The Spirit tells me that the organized church is at enmity with God.
The Pope is an elected official of the Vatican country.
godspeed,
freedom
Interpret scripture as you wish. Good luck to you.
I don't believe you will find his comments in contadiction to the following:
"813 The Church is one because of her source: "the highest exemplar and source of this mystery is the unity, in the Trinity of Persons, of one God, the Father and the Son in the Holy Spirit." The Church is one because of her founder: for "the Word made flesh, the prince of peace, reconciled all men to God by the cross, . . . restoring the unity of all in one people and one body." The Church is one because of her "soul": "It is the Holy Spirit, dwelling in those who believe and pervading and ruling over the entire Church, who brings about that wonderful communion of the faithful and joins them together so intimately in Christ that he is the principle of the Church's unity." Unity is of the essence of the Church: "
Catechism of the Catholic Church
Ok.. again.. what am I missing?
The Pope believes non Catholic churches aren't "true churches" and are "defective". Do you disagree with this statement?
The Pope believes non Catholic churches aren't "true churches" and are "defective". Do you disagree with this statement?
I can't speak for the Popes beliefs. The Roman Catholic doctrine on the Universal Church is readily available.
If we agree in the concept of a universal Church, the body of Christ, then Catholics believe that the Roman Catholic Church is the quardian of that deposit of faith.
Other "denominations" that have sprung up have splintered the universal Church.
Nevertheless, if one does not believe in Apostolic succession, Roman Catholic doctrine will be difficult to swallow.
People kneel, bow, kiss the ring and call him Holy father. There are those that worship him. And he was ordained by a body of men, by vote.
There is a misunderstanding of how God guides the Church. Yes, other clergy vote for a Pope or a bishop with the understanding that the holy Spirit enlightens the Church to do God's work.
The practice among Catholics is to show honor to those chosen by God. We call our pastors "father" as a child would address his parent. Because the Pope is the pastor to the pastors, his title of "holy father" reminds him of his great duty to bring Christ to all the world.
The Apostolic succession is practiced in not only in the Roman Catholic church but also the Orthodox, Anglican and some Lutheran churches.
There is a misunderstanding of how God guides the Church. Yes, other clergy vote for a Pope or a bishop with the understanding that the holy Spirit enlightens the Church to do God's work.
The practice among Catholics is to show honor to those chosen by God. We call our pastors "father" as a child would address his parent. Because the Pope is the pastor to the pastors, his title of "holy father" reminds him of his great duty to bring Christ to all the world.
The Apostolic succession is practiced in not only in the Roman Catholic church but also the Orthodox, Anglican and some Lutheran churches.
How does the church address the scripture that Jesus taught, "Call no man your Father, for there is one Father, even your Father in heaven".
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