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Old 10-08-2019, 08:06 PM
 
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As the story goes, God warned Adam that if he disobeyed, he would surely die, like in "Death." However, how was this to impress Adam? Adam in experience and knowledge was little more than a two year old child, he had never heard of death, never seen or heard of a dead thing, as death did not exist. God could have threatened to turn him into a bicycle, and Adam would be equally bewildered by the threat. Quite silly really.


Adam was not a child when he came into the Earth, and in the event of Adam & Eve disobeying God probably didn't happen in the first week of their lives as he lived to 930 years old. Death did exist for the animals, so knowledge of what death was known.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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It's not a literal story. Don't worry about it.
Are there people who claim the creation story is a literal story?

Maybe this is a big problem, but anyone who is serious, and who breaks down the story must know that it is just a spiritual story.

Maybe we can get people to raise they hands,'' If you think the creation story is meant to be read as a literal story, then please raise your hand.

I am certain we can talk you down, the creation story is a spiritual, symbolic, metaphorical story, break the story down piece by piece, and you can see this.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:53 PM
 
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Are there people who claim the creation story is a literal story?

Maybe this is a big problem, but anyone who is serious, and who breaks down the story must know that it is just a spiritual story.

Maybe we can get people to raise they hands,'' If you think the creation story is meant to be read as a literal story, then please raise your hand.

I am certain we can talk you down, the creation story is a spiritual, symbolic, metaphorical story, break the story down piece by piece, and you can see this.
You have been on this forum long enuff to know there are!
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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You have been on this forum long enuff to know there are!
That's why I have 6 different colored crayons, I know who they are, I have they names written in color.

Hey, did I ever tell you that I trained to be an acrobat back in the day? I think that is why I remain spry, funny thing though, I was being trained in Budapest by a one armed, one eyed Hungarian who claimed to be a deaf mute, but he always talked in his sleep, and when whispers were put to him, he answered and talked in his sleep.
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Old 10-09-2019, 08:27 AM
 
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As the story goes, God warned Adam that if he disobeyed, he would surely die, like in "Death." However, how was this to impress Adam? Adam in experience and knowledge was little more than a two year old child, he had never heard of death, never seen or heard of a dead thing, as death did not exist. God could have threatened to turn him into a bicycle, and Adam would be equally bewildered by the threat. Quite silly really.
You don't believe God could have communicated it to him in terms he could understand?
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Old 10-09-2019, 02:06 PM
 
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Adam was not a child when he came into the Earth, and in the event of Adam & Eve disobeying God probably didn't happen in the first week of their lives as he lived to 930 years old. Death did exist for the animals, so knowledge of what death was known.
How do you know that death existed for the animals?...
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:53 PM
 
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As the story goes, God warned Adam that if he disobeyed, he would surely die, like in "Death." However, how was this to impress Adam? Adam in experience and knowledge was little more than a two year old child, he had never heard of death, never seen or heard of a dead thing, as death did not exist. God could have threatened to turn him into a bicycle, and Adam would be equally bewildered by the threat. Quite silly really.
Man had the prospect of everlasting life. Plants and other animals were not created as such. So he would've known what death meant by observing what happened around him.
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:26 AM
 
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How do you know that death existed for the animals?...
In my very good opinion, as it was with Adam and Eve, so it was with the animals.

Then the LORD said to Moses, “Consecrate to Me every firstborn male. The firstborn from every womb among the Israelites belongs to Me, both of man and beast.”

Of course I see the garden as a spiritual thing that depicts what a human is, Adam, Eve, and the most beatiful creature. That there is a hidden inner righteous man inside of a body of flesh belonging to an animal like a man clothed in the skins of an animal. All the sins of the world were put on the head of an animal, because it is a part of what we are, and where we came from, I think.
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:43 AM
 
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Man had the prospect of everlasting life. Plants and other animals were not created as such. So he would've known what death meant by observing what happened around him.
And you know this how?...
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