Violation of our free will? (Gospels, Revelation, beliefs, exodus)
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I got to thinking about the Tower of babel incident, where God saw what man was doing, and intervened, 'confusing the languages' so no one could understand each other, and/or continue to work together building the tower...
Seems like this would have been a violation of our free will...right?
I got to thinking about the Tower of babel incident, where God saw what man was doing, and intervened, 'confusing the languages' so no one could understand each other, and/or continue to work together building the tower...
Seems like this would have been a violation of our free will...right?
Tower is not a physical event, it is mental archetypical construct.
I got to thinking about the Tower of babel incident, where God saw what man was doing, and intervened, 'confusing the languages' so no one could understand each other, and/or continue to work together building the tower...
Seems like this would have been a violation of our free will...right?
Whoever wrote that story (or wrote down what was probably first an oral tradition) likely wasn't thinking about free will. I wouldn't read that much into it.
I got to thinking about the Tower of babel incident, where God saw what man was doing, and intervened, 'confusing the languages' so no one could understand each other, and/or continue to work together building the tower...
Seems like this would have been a violation of our free will...right?
It's simply an attempt to explain why humanity is so fragmented and why there are so many languages and dialects. I don't believe it has any theological significance whatsoever. Unlike many biblical accounts that may or may not be historically true, I can't even discern any underlying spiritual lesson. The notion that God feared the potential of a united humanity with one language is too silly to spend any time contemplating. FWIW, there are plenty of verses where God "violates" someone's free will, if that's how you want to look at it - such as the hardening of Pharaoh's heart.
I got to thinking about the Tower of babel incident, where God saw what man was doing, and intervened, 'confusing the languages' so no one could understand each other, and/or continue to work together building the tower..................Seems like this would have been a violation of our free will...right?
We are all free to act responsibly toward God.
We are Not free to break God's law ( Remember what happened to free-willed Adam's bad choice )
Even today we are Not really free to suddenly yell out "FIRE" in a movie theatre.
God's will was that man fill the earth ( Not crowd together as at the Tower of Babel )
God already promised there would Not be another 'Flood'.
So, there was No need to build such a Tower so as Not to have to build an ARK, just go to the top of the Tower.
The change of language caused people to migrate away from the Tower and spread throughout the Earth.
We are all free to act responsibly toward God.
We are Not free to break God's law ( Remember what happened to free-willed Adam's bad choice )
Even today we are Not really free to suddenly yell out "FIRE" in a movie theatre.
God's will was that man fill the earth ( Not crowd together as at the Tower of Babel )
God already promised there would Not be another 'Flood'.
So, there was No need to build such a Tower so as Not to have to build an ARK, just go to the top of the Tower.
The change of language caused people to migrate away from the Tower and spread throughout the Earth.
It's simply an attempt to explain why humanity is so fragmented and why there are so many languages and dialects. I don't believe it has any theological significance whatsoever. Unlike many biblical accounts that may or may not be historically true, I can't even discern any underlying spiritual lesson. The notion that God feared the potential of a united humanity with one language is too silly to spend any time contemplating. FWIW, there are plenty of verses where God "violates" someone's free will, if that's how you want to look at it - such as the hardening of Pharaoh's heart.
Pharaoh hardened his own heart. God allowed it that is why it says what it says at Exodus 7:13-14.
When Pharaoh saw the conditions of Exodus 8:15,32 Pharaoh hardened his own heart.
So, in a sense, God gave Pharaoh 'enough rope...' to harden his heart by Pharaoh working out his own heart's wickedness.
The 'Towers' underlying spiritual or scriptural lesson is:
As the people left ancient Babylon they took with them not only their new languages but took with them their false religious practices and ideas and spread them world wide into a greater religious Babylon or Babylon the Great.
This is why we see so many similar or overlapping religious ideas and practices in today's religious world.
Actually the sin of the tower of Babel is the same sin of the number of the beast .... Which is that man would make himself God Where they built a tower of babel to reach to the heaven to be God in their arrogance. God snuffed out the sin with the confusion of languages............ Then where man became a god and is this number 666 which is man number for them for God. See the number for God would be three in the trinity or 333 ............ See there are many people today who reject God and the help of God so by default they become a god over themselves, and in the last days God said He will destroy people with this number of the beast who reject God ........... I heard one revelation of the spiritual gift of tongues would be a regulator that believers who give God the glory instead of becoming gods........
Hard to make sense of most of those old writings and old BC stuff (people turning into pillars of salt, fire and brimstone falling on cities, flying scrolls, etc.) Better off just sticking with the more straightforward stuff on this side of AD, such as the Gospels.
As the people left ancient Babylon they took with them not only their new languages but took with them their false religious practices and ideas and spread them world wide into a greater religious Babylon or Babylon the Great.
This is why we see so many similar or overlapping religious ideas and practices in today's religious world.
This explains the nature of Christianity, and all other religions as they are a hodgepodge of various beliefs.
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