The uncleanliness of man! (believe, scripture, disciple, Jesus)

[Free4you]

As Jesus said;

“It’s not what goes in a mans mouth that makes one unclean but what comes out of it.”

So again Jesus reiterates that what man says is what saves him.

As it is written; “I shall change and purify the lips of the people so they will all call upon the name of the Lord to serve Him with one accord.”

“The words of the righteous deliver him but the speech of the wicked is a deadly ambush.”

“By your words you’ll be justified and by your words you’ll be condemned.”

“Yet you are cleansed by the word I have spoken to you.”

“The man who comes to me hears my word and uses it.”

Does scripture show that man is saved by what He says?

The verses shown say yes.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by Free4you

As Jesus said;

“It’s not what goes in a mans mouth that makes one unclean but what comes out of it.”

So again Jesus reiterates that what man says is what saves him.

As it is written; “I shall change and purify the lips of the people so they will all call upon the name of the Lord to serve Him with one accord.”

“The words of the righteous deliver him but the speech of the wicked is a deadly ambush.”

“By your words you’ll be justified and by your words you’ll be condemned.”

“Yet you are cleansed by the word I have spoken to you.”

“The man who comes to me hears my word and uses it.”

Does scripture show that man is saved by what He says?

The verses shown say yes.

I think scripture shows that words and the way we use them are important; I don't believe scripture shows that they save us.

[Free4you]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

I think scripture shows that words and the way we use them are important; I don't believe scripture shows that they save us.

So the verse, “by your words you’ll be justified and by your words you’ll be condemned” does not mean that.

Or “If you continue in my word you are truly my disciple” does not mean the words save?

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by Free4you

So the verse, “by your words you’ll be justified and by your words you’ll be condemned” does not mean that.

Or “If you continue in my word you are truly my disciple” does not mean the words save?

It's certainly part of it, but anyone can talk the talk, but what truly matters is walking the walk. As Jesus says in Matthew 7:21, "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Our words matter only to the degree that the way we live is a reflection of the way we speak.

[Meerkat2]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

It's certainly part of it, but anyone can talk the talk, but what truly matters is walking the walk. As Jesus says in Matthew 7:21, "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Our words matter only to the degree that the way we live is a reflection of the way we speak.

Yep!

Too soon

[Free4you]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

It's certainly part of it, but anyone can talk the talk, but what truly matters is walking the walk. As Jesus says in Matthew 7:21, "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Our words matter only to the degree that the way we live is a reflection of the way we speak.

Jesus said he came down from heaven to do God’s will and to spread the good news of the kingdom of heaven but also to testify the truth, God’s word.

What if they are all the same thing?

What if God’s word is God’s will and the good news is God’s will.

We know that the truth is God’s word per John 17.

So if we are sent as Jesus was sent with the same words as John 17 says then the word of God saves if we use it.

Everyone would have the same will of God if this is correct.

In other words Gods will for a person would be the same for everyone and it would be to serve Him as Jesus demonstrated.

“Then those who revered the Lord spoke with one another and the Lord listened attentively. And a book was opened and a record kept of those who revered the Lord and trusted in His name. And they will be my own special possession when I take action says the Lord. I will have compassion on them as a Father has compassion on His son who serves Him. Then you will again see the distinction of the righteous and the wicked, between those who serve God and those who do not serve Him.”

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by Free4you

Then you will again see the distinction of the righteous and the wicked, between those who serve God and those who do not serve Him.”

The righteous are those who serve God. I'm good with that.

[Free4you]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

The righteous are those who serve God. I'm good with that.

Yes but what did those do who revered the Lord. They spoke with one another.

What did they speak?

“Genuine worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth for God is spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth.”

They speak Gods word, the truth.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by Free4you

Yes but what did those do who revered the Lord. They spoke with one another.

What did they speak?

“Genuine worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth for God is spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth.”

They speak Gods word, the truth.

Are you trying to pick a fight or what? There's nothing to debate here, is there?

[CCCyou]

Originally Posted by Free4you

Jesus said he came down from heaven to do God’s will and to spread the good news of the kingdom of heaven but also to testify the truth, God’s word.
... /snip/ [/b]

How did Jesus testify to the truth?
Do you testify to the truth? How?