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Old 06-27-2020, 10:19 PM
 
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The Lord’s Prayer is more of an instruction on how to pray than a prayer.

How is God’s will done in heaven?

If you don’t know then how can God expect it done on Earth.

“Our Father who art in heaven hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil.”
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Old 06-28-2020, 10:58 AM
 
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https://biblehub.com/greek/4336.htm
"4336 proseúxomai (from 4314 /prós, "towards, exchange" and 2172/euxomai, "to wish, pray") – properly, to exchange wishes; pray – literally, to interact with the Lord by switching human wishes (ideas) for His wishes as He imparts faith ("divine persuasion"). "
So, imo, Jesus speaks about transcendental meditation with saying mantra. (“But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, ").Also fasting mentioned.
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Old 06-28-2020, 11:05 AM
 
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Funny how this topic is discarded.

I suspect it is because no one knows the answer.

I know the answer!

“The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament declare the works of His hand.”
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Old 06-28-2020, 11:57 AM
 
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Funny how this topic is discarded.

I suspect it is because no one knows the answer.

I know the answer!

“The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament declare the works of His hand.”
True God us not directly present in material world, human consciousness need to go into spiritual world so this world became like world above or evolution of human consciousness must be complete and the entire human consciousness be Christ like.

"a man in Christ ... caught up to the third heaven" 2Cor 12. Please
God's will is agape, agape is Christ like mind.
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Old 06-28-2020, 11:58 AM
 
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Funny how this topic is discarded.

I suspect it is because no one knows the answer.

I know the answer!

“The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament declare the works of His hand.”
Good boy!...Here's a Pat on the head:





and a cookie!...


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Old 06-28-2020, 09:46 PM
 
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The Lord’s Prayer is more of an instruction on how to pray than a prayer
How is God’s will done in heaven?
If you don’t know then how can God expect it done on Earth.
“Our Father who art in heaven hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil.”
God's will (purpose) for heaven is that there is No war in heaven, No sickness in heaven, No death in heaven......
So, by praying for 'God's kingdom to come' we are praying for those same heavenly conditions to come to Earth.
This is also why we are all invited to pray the invitation of Rev. 22:20 for Jesus to come !
Come and undo all the damage Satan and Adam brought upon us so that there will be ' healing ' for earth's nations - Rev. 22:2.
Healing to the point that No one will say, I am sick...." according to Isaiah 33:24
Earth and it's people will be happy-and-healthy as described in the 35th chapter of Isaiah.
Thus, even ' enemy death ' will be No more on Earth - 1st Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8.

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Old 06-28-2020, 09:53 PM
 
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True God us not directly present in material world, human consciousness need to go into spiritual world so this world became like world above or evolution of human consciousness must be complete and the entire human consciousness be Christ like.
"a man in Christ ... caught up to the third heaven" 2Cor 12. Please
God's will is agape, agape is Christ like mind.
I find agape' is 'Christ-like self-sacrificing love' as found at John 13:34-35.

The 3rd heaven is the 3rd heaven of 2nd Peter 3:13 that Paul sees.
The 1st heaven is about the governing heavens of Noah's day - 2nd Peter 3:5
The 2nd heaven is about the governing heavens over us since Noah's day to our day.- 2nd Peter 3:7.
The 3rd heaven is about the new governing heavens over us under Christ's 1,000-year governmental rule over mankind.
This is the righteous New heaven of 2nd Peter 3:13 with Christ as King of God's kingdom for a thousand years over Earth.
- 1st Corinthians 15:24-26.
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Old 06-28-2020, 10:39 PM
 
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God's will (purpose) for heaven is that there is No war in heaven, No sickness in heaven, No death in heaven......
So, by praying for 'God's kingdom to come' we are praying for those same heavenly conditions to come to Earth.
This is also why we are all invited to pray the invitation of Rev. 22:20 for Jesus to come !
Come and undo all the damage Satan and Adam brought upon us so that there will be ' healing ' for earth's nations - Rev. 22:2.
Healing to the point that No one will say, I am sick...." according to Isaiah 33:24
Earth and it's people will be happy-and-healthy as described in the 35th chapter of Isaiah.
Thus, even ' enemy death ' will be No more on Earth - 1st Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8.
No. Jesus is saying the kingdom will come when Gods will is done on earth just as it is done in heaven.

Apparently you do not know how the will of God is done in heaven. It is not like anything man teaches.

The one who comes from above is above all. Those who belong to the world think like the world and speak in a worldly way but the one who comes from heaven testifies to what he has seen and heard but no one believes him, if anyone does believe they render the truth of God.
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Old 06-29-2020, 07:04 AM
 
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The Lord’s Prayer is more of an instruction on how to pray than a prayer.

How is God’s will done in heaven?

If you don’t know then how can God expect it done on Earth.

“Our Father who art in heaven hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil.”
Hi Free, so happy you recognize that. Almost everyone has prayed that prayer many times through their lives but so few actually know what they are asking for. You may have noticed what brings about God's will being done on earth, it is the coming of His Kingdom. We Christians pray for His Kingdom to come, and share with others that primary message, the main reason Jesus was sent to earth Luke 4:43

You might notice also, that it is written in the descending order of importance. First it speaks of the sanctification of God's name, to hold it holy. Do you know God's name? Then we ask for the Kingdom to come, and God's will being done here on earth, as it is where He resides. Then more on a personal level providing us with our daily needs. Interestingly the next statement is conditional, the forgiveness of our sins, based on our forgiveness of others. Jesus gave a fine parable to illustrate this found at Mat 18:beginning in verse 23 through the end of the chapter.
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Old 06-29-2020, 09:04 AM
 
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I find agape' is 'Christ-like self-sacrificing love' as found at John 13:34-35.

The 3rd heaven is the 3rd heaven of 2nd Peter 3:13 that Paul sees.
The 1st heaven is about the governing heavens of Noah's day - 2nd Peter 3:5
The 2nd heaven is about the governing heavens over us since Noah's day to our day.- 2nd Peter 3:7.
The 3rd heaven is about the new governing heavens over us under Christ's 1,000-year governmental rule over mankind.
This is the righteous New heaven of 2nd Peter 3:13 with Christ as King of God's kingdom for a thousand years over Earth.
- 1st Corinthians 15:24-26.
Christ existed before men. God want Men to become Christ like, even Christ Jesus. Our soul need change vibrations, density to get higher, in this world agape is what our souls turn to spirit density, that is why we here -agape.
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