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Old 10-04-2020, 12:21 PM
 
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They should try to figure it out instead of running on emotion...
But individually humans are emotional beings and the “multitudes” are not who the Scriptures are aimed at, they are like the birds, beasts, fish, creeping things metaphorically who do things naturally, living their own natural lives, within their own particular society

There is a specific people who have the necessary literary skills, but there are different types of skills needed to sort through a huge amount of “religious” data that no one person can do alone

There are a people of God, prophets, priests, elders who were not, are not, will not think that they are doing the work for themselves, for their own benefit.... they realise they are fulfilling Gods will and purpose for His creation according to His times for society “humankind”

1Co 15:35**But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
1Co 15:36**Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
1Co 15:37**And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
1Co 15:38**But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
1Co 15:39**All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
1Co 15:40**There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
1Co 15:41**There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
1Co 15:42**So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1Co 15:43**It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
1Co 15:44**It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1Co 15:45**And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
1Co 15:46**Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
1Co 15:47**The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
1Co 15:48**As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
1Co 15:49**And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.



The individual political and religious organisations have their own spheres of authority, on earth, natural - Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism do have their own “estates” but are not ultimately or the sole point, they each have their own “place” in “time” according to their own “seasons”


Gen 1:14**And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

Jer 8:5**Why then is this people of Jerusalem slidden back by a perpetual backsliding? they hold fast deceit, they refuse to return.
Jer 8:6**I hearkened and heard, but they spake not aright: no man repented him of his wickedness, saying, What have I done? every one turned to his course, as the horse rusheth into the battle.
Jer 8:7**Yea, the stork in the heaven knoweth her appointed times; and the turtle and the crane and the swallow observe the time of their coming; but my people know not the judgment of the LORD.
Jer 8:8**How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
Jer 8:9**The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have rejected the word of the LORD; and what wisdom is in them?
Jer 8:10**Therefore will I give their wives unto others, and their fields to them that shall inherit them: for every one from the least even unto the greatest is given to covetousness, from the prophet even unto the priest every one dealeth falsely.
Jer 8:11**For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.

Deu 4:15**Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire:
Deu 4:16**Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,
Deu 4:17**The likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air,
Deu 4:18**The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth:

Deu 4:19**And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.
Deu 4:20**But the LORD hath taken you, and brought you forth out of the iron furnace, even out of Egypt, to be unto him a people of inheritance, as ye are this day.


Mat 23:37**O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Mat 23:38**Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Mat 23:39**For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Rom 1:18**For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Rom 1:19**Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20**For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21**Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22**Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23**And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Rom 1:24**Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

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Old 10-04-2020, 09:40 PM
 
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1st Corinthians chapter 15 is addressed to Christ's ' brothers ' ( Like the ' brothers ' of Matthew 25:40; Luke 22:28-30 )

The figurative ' sheep ' of Matthew 25:37 are Not Jesus ' brothers ' of verse 40.

It is Christ's ' brothers' who are called to heavenly life - Revelation 20:6; 2:10; 5:9-10; Daniel 7:18.

The majority of mankind are to be here on Earth - Ephesians 1:10

The meek who will inherit the Earth - Psalm 37:9-11; Matthew 5:5 as Jesus promised.
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Old 10-06-2020, 05:48 AM
 
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Once in heaven, will we remember our time on earth, our past sins and failures, etc. Reason I ask is after the 1000 reign and satan is released, will we remember how horrible all the bad we did while on earth made us so as not to be tempted again by satan? Or are only those that were not on earth subject to the temptation when satan is released?



Most likely, however, only a select few will be redeemed from the earth to go there Rev 14:3


What would be the point of resurrecting the rest of us as a new individual with no memory of their former life. Jehovah promises that people will be resurrected, not recreated.
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