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Pastor can forgive sin as long as this exercise is in the witness of Jesus Father God .... So if the Pastor sins, or gets to busy for God to Pray then He should pass on confession
Scripture doesn't teach that. Scripture teaches us that we are born again into Jesus, and that we are adopted as sons. He'd no more cast us out than you'd cast out your own child. It's not about what we've done lately. It's about what God did once.
Clearly it DOES:
Luke 17:3–4 “If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him;
and if he sins against you seven times in the day, and turns to you seven times, and says, ‘I repent,’ you must forgive him.”
Do you interpret Jesus "sitting down at the right hand of God" to mean that Jesus is literally just sitting down and doing nothing?
What do you believe the author of Hebrews was doing by mentioning how every priest stands and offers sacrifices daily? Did a priest ever sit down in the temple? No. Because he was there to work. His job was never done. But when Jesus sat down, his work was done.
Clearly it DOES:
Luke 17:3–4 “If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him;
and if he sins against you seven times in the day, and turns to you seven times, and says, ‘I repent,’ you must forgive him.”
So you believe I have the ability to send another to hell when he offends me? That's bizarre.
Or maybe Luke 17 wasn't about us having to be forgiven by God over and over and over again. He adopts those that believe in Jesus. If you have trusted in Jesus you're a child of God. He won't toss you out.
So you believe I have the ability to send another to hell when he offends me? That's bizarre.
Or maybe Luke 17 wasn't about us having to be forgiven by God over and over and over again. He adopts those that believe in Jesus. If you have trusted in Jesus you're a child of God. He won't toss you out.
'Forgive us our sins, as we forgive others';
You pray it too every time you pray the Lords prayer:
or do you not pray that one either?
Why did Jesus teach us to say that, instead of 'thankyou lord for already forgiving all the sins that I will ever sin' as YOU suggest?
What do you believe the author of Hebrews was doing by mentioning how every priest stands and offers sacrifices daily? Did a priest ever sit down in the temple? No. Because he was there to work. His job was never done. But when Jesus sat down, his work was done.
Even if we grant that the work of Jesus is done (and there is a sense in which I'd agree with you that His work is done), it doesn't follow that man's work is done...
Even if we grant that the work of Jesus is done (and there is a sense in which I'd agree with you that His work is done), it doesn't follow that man's work is done...
correct, the head is finished, the feet just need to catch up.
Even if we grant that the work of Jesus is done (and there is a sense in which I'd agree with you that His work is done), it doesn't follow that man's work is done...
Scripture doesn't teach us that salvation is by God's work plus man's work. It's God alone.
What you're advocating for is synergism, meaning that we have to work with God to accomplish salvation. I believe the Bible teaches monergism, meaning that it's of God alone.
'Forgive us our sins, as we forgive others';
You pray it too every time you pray the Lords prayer:
or do you not pray that one either?
Why did Jesus teach us to say that, instead of 'thankyou lord for already forgiving all the sins that I will ever sin' as YOU suggest?
Check out the Greek behind that. The point of it is that as we forgive those of MINOR offenses to us, God forgives us of all our sins. He's not watching and waiting for us to forgive in order to be forgiven, nor is he waiting for us to recite a scripted passage in order to forgive. Salvation is entirely of him.
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