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Old 07-22-2021, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Do any Christians on this forum believe that if the mainstream unrepentant sinner is bad enough for eternal punishment/eternal hellfire that there might be a fate worse than Hell?
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Old 07-22-2021, 07:55 PM
 
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Do any Christians on this forum believe that if the mainstream unrepentant sinner is bad enough for eternal punishment/eternal hellfire that there might be a fate worse than Hell?
The Bible is pretty clear that the lake of fire is the ultimate destination for both the devil and his angels and for those members of the human race whose names are not found in the book of life.

But it's not really a matter of being bad enough. All of our sins were judged and paid for on the cross. God is not going to judge the unbeliever for sins that Jesus already paid for. The only issue affecting one's final destination is whether one places his personal trust in Jesus for eternal life.
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Old 07-22-2021, 08:09 PM
 
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Do any Christians on this forum believe that if the mainstream unrepentant sinner is bad enough for eternal punishment/eternal hellfire that there might be a fate worse than Hell?
The unrepentant sinner is not punished for being a sinner, he is punished for not accepting Christ which is the cure for being a sinner.

We are born sinners and can't help that, but we can do something about it, and there comes the punishment for not accepting what God paid such a high price for to deliver man.
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Old 07-22-2021, 08:13 PM
 
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The unrepentant sinner is not punished for being a sinner, he is punished for not accepting Christ which is the cure for being a sinner.

We are born sinners and can't help that, but we can do something about it, and there comes the punishment for not accepting what God paid such a high price for to deliver man.
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Old 07-22-2021, 08:18 PM
 
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Old 07-22-2021, 08:23 PM
 
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Hey! God is serious about sin and what His Son had to do to deliver man from it!

You can frown if you like, but God is not frowning and means what He said!

This sin thing we disregard is not a joke with Him!

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Old 07-22-2021, 08:29 PM
 
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Yeah, God might just push 'The Sinner' near the sun repeatedly, singing him over and over. O---kayyyyy....

Some might try one day to move beyond the OT to the other stuff that came afterwards. There was a man named Jesus...
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:52 AM
 
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A man is in fact punished for being a sinner; but of course it is also true that because he doesn't avail himself of the double cure for sin, he continues to be a sinner and is thus deserving of judgment.

Thus, there is a very real sense in which the sinner is punished because he rejected the double cure for sin.
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:59 AM
 
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Well, I view Hell as separation from God, but it is possible to imagine lower than that. Ancient Greeks in particular concocted some terrible punishments.
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:24 AM
 
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Most people who ignore the call of God will get theirs in the afterlife, so people won't witness what goes on with the Judgment of God .... it is the rebellion of Armageddon, and area were people betray God and bring down the people who God has covenanted with that the witness of God that will bring out the eternal fear of God ........... Like that past witness that God judgment for trying to bring down people in covenant with God was the destruction of hitler Germany, and the downfall of the empire of Rome, and bible history like the failure of pharaoh to hold the Israelites with Moses in Egypt, another was ballaam and the donkey which the wizard balaam failed to bring down the Israelites, as the warrior angel on the road was from God
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