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Old 08-25-2021, 01:19 PM
 
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I agree they were cast into the lake of fire charlie and the scripture show that those who are in the lake of fire once all the old man is destroyed have the right to the tree of life.

Question who is it scripture says is without the gate? I expect crickets.
That is not what that scripture says! There is your twist, you are trying to make it what you want but you can't. You insist but it's not there!
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Old 08-25-2021, 01:22 PM
 
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That is not what that scripture says! There is your twist, you are trying to make it what you want but you can't. You insist but it's not there!
Who is it scripture says is without the gates?

You just don't like the obvious answer.
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Old 08-25-2021, 01:30 PM
 
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Who is it scripture says is without the gates?

You just don't like the obvious answer.
It is for sure the righteous have the right to the city.

It is for sure the unrighteous are in the Lake of Fire.

It is for sure the scripture does not say they get out of the Lake of Fire.

It is for sure you are taking the "old man nature" out of context as there is no relations to that and Judgement as you have stated.

It is for sure you are grasping in the wind to keep your dream alive.
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Old 08-25-2021, 01:39 PM
 
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It is for sure the righteous have the right to the city.

It is for sure the unrighteous are in the Lake of Fire.

It is for sure the scripture does not say they get out of the Lake of Fire.

It is for sure you are taking the "old man nature" out of context as there is no relations to that and Judgement as you have stated.

It is for sure you are grasping in the wind to keep your dream alive.
Charlie the righteous are already IN the city, there is no one outside of the city except The dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

What is for sure Charlie is you just don't like what you see. You see the truth, you are no longer blind to it, you are just rejecting it.
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Old 08-25-2021, 01:40 PM
 
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Charlie the righteous are already IN the city, there is no one outside of the city except The dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

What is for sure Charlie is you just don't like what you see. You see the truth, you are no longer blind to it, you are just rejecting it.
so the question remains

who is it that is without the gates?
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Old 08-25-2021, 01:46 PM
 
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Charlie the righteous are already IN the city, there is no one outside of the city except The dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

What is for sure Charlie is you just don't like what you see. You see the truth, you are no longer blind to it, you are just rejecting it.
How hard is it understand that the dogs, whoremongers, etc... have been cast into the Lake of Fire and the term "without the gate" does not mean they are standing outside the gate looking in!

They are in the Lake of Fire! Go ahead and twist all you want, what you are presenting is ridiculous, but it doesn't matter to you!
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Old 08-25-2021, 01:51 PM
 
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How hard is it understand that the dogs, whoremongers, etc... have been cast into the Lake of Fire and the term "without the gate" does not mean they are standing outside the gate looking in!

They are in the Lake of Fire! Go ahead and twist all you want, what you are presenting is ridiculous, but it doesn't matter to you!
I have twisted nothing, the scriptures are plain on who it is without the gate.

So again who is it that is without the gate?

This seems to be to hard of a question for you even though you know the answer, so maybe you better wait until your mentor shows up and helps bail you out.
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Old 08-25-2021, 01:57 PM
 
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I have twisted nothing, the scriptures are plain on who it is without the gate.

So again who is it that is without the gate?

This seems to be to hard of a question for you even though you know the answer, so maybe you better wait until your mentor shows up and helps bail you out.
LOL, the dogs, whoremongers, etc... are outside the gate, in the Lake of Fire as plainly seen in Rev. 20:11-15. Then the scripture presents New Jerusalem, which leads to where we are now!

You are misrepresenting the term "without the gate." It is to show they have no part in the New Jerusalem.
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Old 08-25-2021, 02:03 PM
 
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LOL, the dogs, whoremongers, etc... are outside the gate, in the Lake of Fire as plainly seen in Rev. 20:11-15. Then the scripture presents New Jerusalem, which leads to where we are now!

You are misrepresenting the term "without the gate." It is to show they have not part in the New Jerusalem.
So only those without the gate are the dogs, whoremongers, etc as you acknowledge.

One down

so who is it then that can enter in through the gates into the city?
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Old 08-25-2021, 02:04 PM
 
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How hard is it understand that the dogs, whoremongers, etc... have been cast into the Lake of Fire and the term "without the gate" does not mean they are standing outside the gate looking in!

They are in the Lake of Fire! Go ahead and twist all you want, what you are presenting is ridiculous, but it doesn't matter to you!
How hard is it to understand that they cannot enter, until they have been made righteous?


It doesn't say that they will never enter, Charlie?
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