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Old 08-06-2021, 05:06 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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Paul was God’s chosen Apostle to the Gentiles. His epistles are instructions to the church, confirmed by Peter. Liberals cherry pick a few passages of his that fits their narrative and trash the remainder as the “words of a man”.
The Protestants were the “liberals” too in their own generation - Luther and Calvin brought judgement to the system of that Day

Nothing new under the sun

The building up and the breaking down was to happen alongside each other
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Old 08-06-2021, 05:15 PM
 
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Paul was God’s chosen Apostle to the Gentiles. His epistles are instructions to the church, confirmed by Peter. Liberals cherry pick a few passages of his that fits their narrative and trash the remainder as the “words of a man”.
Peter was chosen...
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Old 08-06-2021, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Under the New Covenant, salvation became a non-issue since Jesus achieved it for us. What we do or do not do to build on the foundation of agape love and reconciliation Jesus laid for us became the only issue. We build on that foundation by the agape love of God and each other every day and repenting when we fail.
He achieved the atonement but man must connect to that atonement and remain within that atonement to be saved. Too many Bible passages that refute your false doctrine that came from men, not Christ.
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Old 08-06-2021, 06:34 PM
 
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Peter was chosen...
Yes, true. And chosen by none other than Jesus, to be the "rock" (Petra/Peter) of the church and ministry.

And Paul? He enjoyed an early life as murderer and persecuter. If people think that makes for a good resume, well...

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Old 08-06-2021, 06:58 PM
 
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Yes, true. And chosen by none other than Jesus, to be the "rock" (Petra/Peter) of the church and ministry.

And Paul? He enjoyed an early life as murderer and persecuter. If people think that makes for a good resume, well...
Damascus road episode?
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Old 08-06-2021, 07:06 PM
 
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People must love Paul's early career as murderer and persecuter of Christians. What a 'great' start for the dope.
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Old 08-06-2021, 07:11 PM
 
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People must love Paul's early career as murderer and persecuter of Christians. What a 'great' start for the dope.
Jesus did not come for the righteous

He came to save the “sinners” and that is to heal them of what particular malady they have, the blind need a different cure than the lame

These things are metaphorical though

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Old 08-06-2021, 08:02 PM
 
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^ Paul came along and tried to put his teachings on par with Jesus. Nothing he added was even necessary. As long as it's in the Bible, many put his teachings as equal to those of Jesus without ever thinking carefully about what they are doing.
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Old 08-06-2021, 08:04 PM
 
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Under the New Covenant, salvation became a non-issue since Jesus achieved it for us. What we do or do not do to build on the foundation of agape love and reconciliation Jesus laid for us became the only issue. We build on that foundation by the agape love of God and each other every day and repenting when we fail.
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He achieved the atonement but man must connect to that atonement and remain within that atonement to be saved. Too many Bible passages that refute your false doctrine that came from men, not Christ.
Wrong. It is men who decided they wanted credit for their salvation so they added the requirement that we believe whatever "precepts and doctrines of men" they say it is necessary to believe to accept our salvation (oh, and BTW join their church)! Nonsense! We can NOT decide what we truly believe, so it is an absurdity to pretend it is necessary. Jesus saved us and we have nothing to do with it except believe Him and act accordingly.
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Old 08-06-2021, 08:05 PM
 
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He achieved the atonement but man must connect to that atonement and remain within that atonement to be saved. Too many Bible passages that refute your false doctrine that came from men, not Christ.
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