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"Rev. Williams is not in charge of this church; God is. It doesn’t matter how badly I want certain things to happen. If it is not God’s will, it’s not going to happen."
How does that relate to every single decision, intent, idea, desire, commitment, etc. ?
(even those that have no link whatsoever to religion)
Thanks.
Last edited by howard555; 08-13-2021 at 09:06 AM..
"Rev. Williams is not in charge of this church; God is. It doesn’t matter how badly I want certain things to happen. If it is not God’s will, it’s not going to happen."
How does that relate to every single decision, intent, idea, desire, commitment, etc. ?
(even those that have no link whatsoever to religion)
Thanks.
Yes. That's correct. If God wants something to happen, it will. What's your question?
Rev. Williams is hiding behind that and actually copied it from a web page and injected their name and added and removed a couple or three words.
Rev. Williams has said so many things they would do and failed to do that now they are using the above as a cop-out so it can cover 100% of every situation and scenario.
When something they say will happen for which they have total control as to whether it does happen (such as an indoor church meal before the end of the year) or not happen they always say it was not God's will.
Using that logic, which can't possibly be true for all scenarios, then no matter how badly they want Sister Susan to clean the church bathroom weekly if it's not God's will Susan will decline the invite.
Susan's decision would not be based on God's will.
Concerned members which now total about 14 that find that statement ("Rev. Williams is not in charge of this church; God is. It doesn’t matter how badly I want certain things to happen. If it is not God’s will, it’s not going to happen.") a conflict.
Last edited by howard555; 08-13-2021 at 09:34 AM..
"Rev. Williams is not in charge of this church; God is. It doesn’t matter how badly I want certain things to happen. If it is not God’s will, it’s not going to happen."
How does that relate to every single decision, intent, idea, desire, commitment, etc. ?
(even those that have no link whatsoever to religion)
Thanks.
It is not God's will for people to sin, but people sin. God gave man volition. In order for man's volition to function God must restrain his sovereignty and allow man to make decisions which are contrary to his sovereign will.
It is not God's will for people to sin, but people sin. God gave man volition. In order for man's volition to function God must restrain his sovereignty and allow man to make decisions which are contrary to his sovereign will.
That is the whole point of giving us free will and Dominion here on earth BY His Sovereign Will!
It is not God's will for people to sin, but people sin. God gave man volition. In order for man's volition to function God must restrain his sovereignty and allow man to make decisions which are contrary to his sovereign will.
The veracity of that theory depends on its ability (or not) to deal with God's omniscience.
Does God know what you're going to do? Sure he does, because he made you and the world you live in. Before creation, the universe was an idea in the mind of God, rather like a blueprint that shows how everything fits together and how the whole system changes over time. Then He approved the design and made it just so, and he watches history unfold exactly to spec. No deviation from the plan is possible. He is God, after all.
Now let me ask you this: God saw in his mind a world in which you cut off Suzie's pony tail in the second grade. God put that world into production and declared it good, which includes all the events he foresaw happening in it. You had no other real option, did you? If you hadn't picked up the scissors, it would not be the world that God made and approved.
In what sense can you say that God did not want you to cut off Suzie's ponytail?
Last edited by Arizona Humphrey; 08-13-2021 at 02:03 PM..
Reason: grammer
Rev. Williams is hiding behind that and actually copied it from a web page and injected their name and added and removed a couple or three words.
Do you mean there is actually someone named Rev. Williams? This is an actual person? I thought you were using a hypothetical.
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Rev. Williams has said so many things they would do and failed to do that now they are using the above as a cop-out so it can cover 100% of every situation and scenario.
When something they say will happen for which they have total control as to whether it does happen (such as an indoor church meal before the end of the year) or not happen they always say it was not God's will.
Using that logic, which can't possibly be true for all scenarios, then no matter how badly they want Sister Susan to clean the church bathroom weekly if it's not God's will Susan will decline the invite.
Susan's decision would not be based on God's will.
Concerned members which now total about 14 that find that statement ("Rev. Williams is not in charge of this church; God is. It doesn’t matter how badly I want certain things to happen. If it is not God’s will, it’s not going to happen.") a conflict.
It is Gods will that all be saved............obviously that hasn't happened
Don't forget the word " IF ". All be saved " IF ".... according to 1st John 1:7.
Remember: Jesus' ransom coves MANY and does Not say all at Matthew 20:28
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