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what I meant hanni is you use the OT to explain the NT where I use the NT to explain the OT which is all in shadow and can only be understood via Christ. Now I am not saying we should not study that which is in shadow for we should for it is our school teacher that leads us to Christ. Thus when I read the torah if I do not see Christ and all that He is and has done in it I am not understanding it properly.
I write down all the laws, and beside those laws, I wrote down what they really mean. Christoans look at the law as do's and donts, I look at the law as the marriage contract it is.
All the laws concern the bride, all the laws concern the beluever.
Corinthians.
9For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen? 10Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.
The laws of slavery dont concern masters and servants, they concern a believer.
Laws of unclean animals are not about animals, they are about people and unclean spirits.
The Christian is in a 7 year covenant he has to come to the end of, but he doesnt know he is in a 7 year covenant because he doesnt k6 ow the law.
The feasts dont concern feasts, they teach a 7 year covenant that Christian's progressively moves through 7 feasts.
None of this concerns the Christian because they Christian isnt in the new covenant.
That doesnt mean they arent saved, it means they aren't Ephraim or Judah.
The New Testament is just the helper of the old, it is not God's ordained word, it cannot sit next to the law and the prophets and anything said on the New Testament must comply with the old. If somebody doesnt speak by the law and the prophets, they shouldnt speak.
Jesus said that whoever keeps the law to then teach others to keep the laws will be the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
I write down all the laws, and beside those laws, I wrote down what they really mean. Christoans look at the law as do's and donts, I look at the law as the marriage contract it is.
All the laws concern the bride, all the laws concern the beluever.
Corinthians.
9For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen? 10Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.
The laws of slavery dont concern masters and servants, they concern a believer.
Laws of unclean animals are not about animals, they are about people and unclean spirits.
The Christian is in a 7 year covenant he has to come to the end of, but he doesnt know he is in a 7 year covenant because he doesnt k6 ow the law.
The feasts dont concern feasts, they teach a 7 year covenant that Christian's progressively moves through 7 feasts.
None of this concerns the Christian because they Christian isnt in the new covenant.
That doesnt mean they arent saved, it means they aren't Ephraim or Judah.
The New Testament is just the helper of the old, it is not God's ordained word, it cannot sit next to the law and the prophets and anything said on the New Testament must comply with the old. If somebody doesnt speak by the law and the prophets, they shouldnt speak.
Jesus said that whoever keeps the law to then teach others to keep the laws will be the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
Christian's just dont believe Jesus.
well you can't lump all Christians together hanni, I agree the law/torah is about a marriage contract. I know many Christians believe the law has been done away with but as long as our old man nature exists the law is in effect because the only way for the marriage contract can be dissolved is once we have died then we can be married unto another.
Anyway hanni most of you post I understand, even though you are a very cryptic writer, and see how they relate to what I see.
That's not the rapture. Matthew 24:31 refers to those who have become believers during the Tribulation. They will be gathered from all parts of the earth to go into the kingdom.
The rapture is an entirely different event which will have taken place before the Tribulation begins. In post 42 I posted a link which gives the reasons why the rapture is pre-tribulational and cannot be post-tribulational. I'll post it again here.
There are not multiple comings in the clouds with great power and glory.
What there is is the rapture of the church before the Tribulation and then the return of Jesus at the end of the Tribulation. Didn't I tell you to go and read the link I provided which tells why the rapture of the church cannot be after the Tribulation?
And in post 14 I gave a very good reason why the rapture of the church cannot be after the Tribulation.
What there is is the rapture of the church before the Tribulation and then the return of Jesus at the end of the Tribulation. Didn't I tell you to go and read the link I provided which tells why the rapture of the church cannot be after the Tribulation?
After the tribulation of those days. You are confusing tribulation with God's wrath.
After the tribulation of those days. You are confusing tribulation with God's wrath.
Two things different.
No, I am not. And no, they are not.
Revelation 6:16 and they said to the mountains and to the rocks. ''Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb;17]For the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?''
Now go and read the link I provided which explains why the rapture cannot be after the Tribulation
My opinion?
I think it's sad to see so many throw away a lifetime of opportunity to Love & having the Father and Christ already dwelling with them (John 14:23),
and instead waste their lives focused on this 'Rapture' type theology nonsense!
My opinion?
I think it's sad to see so many throw away a lifetime of opportunity to Love & having the Father and Christ already dwelling with them (John 14:23),
and instead waste their lives focused on this 'Rapture' type theology nonsense!
Matt. 29
Immediately after the tribulation of those days .... then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn and they will see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory and He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
So say the other two synoptic gospels
From that verse, it appears to be saying this event will happen in heaven,(not on earth)...?
If the sign of Christ appears in heaven, how would people on earth see it?
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