Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Christianity
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 10-20-2021, 05:01 PM
 
64 posts, read 16,722 times
Reputation: 10

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arizona Humphrey View Post
My great-grandmother believed that. Back in the 1890s she fell under the influence of the "Holiness Movement" as preached by the evangelist Beverly Carradine. The idea was, there are two kinds of Christians: those who are merely saved, and those who are sanctified. The super-holy sanctified Christians had received the power to live without sinning. Once sanctified, it was impossible for them to sin.



Great Grandma Hattie disapproved of sin, and most especially of the use of alcohol and tobacco, which she made clear to those who indulged. Hattie herself drank wine liberally and dipped snuff - - but she was sanctified and so these were not sins in her special case.



You see the kind of foolishness that happens when you think you don't sin?
Your great-grandmother was deceived. Then that were not born of God were not saved.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-20-2021, 05:03 PM
 
64 posts, read 16,722 times
Reputation: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by BaptistFundie View Post
If that was the case, then none of the apostles would have been called Christians. Not even John, who wrote that.

And I guarantee neither you, nor anyone else posting here would make it.
None of them referred to themselves as Christians but Peter and Paul.

One denied Jesus 3 times before men and called Jesus a liar
and the other murdered the disciples of Jesus and boasted
to be the chief of sinners.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-20-2021, 05:06 PM
 
64 posts, read 16,722 times
Reputation: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard1965 View Post
What is the spirit of G-d?...What is the spirit of man?...
Do you think that makes any difference to the living God
if you spell God...G-d or God?

If you are asking those questions you are not born of God.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-20-2021, 05:56 PM
 
63,843 posts, read 40,128,566 times
Reputation: 7881
Quote:
Originally Posted by blessedbetheday View Post
Your great-grandmother was deceived. Then that were not born of God were not saved.
Nonsense. What Jesus did is what saved us. What they did or did not do had no effect on their salvation just their ultimate fate after their death and rebirth as "born again" spirits.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-20-2021, 06:39 PM
 
64 posts, read 16,722 times
Reputation: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by MysticPhD View Post
Nonsense. What Jesus did is what saved us. What they did or did not do had no effect on their salvation just their ultimate fate after their death and rebirth as "born again" spirits.
Show me anywhere in that bible where Jesus
stated that He came to save sinners.

Go for it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-20-2021, 06:40 PM
 
64 posts, read 16,722 times
Reputation: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard1965 View Post
So, what must one strive for to obtain the spirit of G-d?...
There is nothing you can do.

It is God that choses you.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-20-2021, 06:52 PM
 
Location: US
32,530 posts, read 22,051,694 times
Reputation: 2228
Quote:
Originally Posted by blessedbetheday View Post
Now that we got all that out of the way,
give us any excuse you can come up with that you can give to the living God
that will excuse you from the punishment that you are going to get for
willfully committing sin that you know before you commit
it that it is disobedience
to Him?
How do you define sin?...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-20-2021, 06:56 PM
 
Location: US
32,530 posts, read 22,051,694 times
Reputation: 2228
Quote:
Originally Posted by blessedbetheday View Post
Not one time is Jesus ever quoted as saying He came to save sinners.
Go look it is not in the bible.


He did say that he was only sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel...

Quote:
But He did say I have come to call sinners to repentance.
Do you have a Bible verse for that?...

Quote:
You better rethink your theology for it is wrong.
Perhaps yours is...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-20-2021, 06:57 PM
 
Location: US
32,530 posts, read 22,051,694 times
Reputation: 2228
Quote:
Originally Posted by blessedbetheday View Post
What difference does it make?
Nothing will excuse you for disobeying the commandments of Jesus Christ.
And what were those commandments?...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-20-2021, 07:03 PM
 
Location: US
32,530 posts, read 22,051,694 times
Reputation: 2228
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerwade View Post
Apparently, the poster is just another drive-by know it all?
This is from the posters (Biography) profile page (LMAO):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_gKmxuEROg
Pentecostal...He sounds so hateful...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Christianity
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:53 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top